I'm pretty sure that we have a similar perspective of the system (re. this and previous posts). You for sure blow me away in dialectic illustrations of our common view, from the trenches. Revolution will not work, it is inherent to the system and just continues it's progress with the 'direction' as is.
"A proven case"? 'Rule overrules Right' is the first bit of evidence. Test it! It's very obvious in every major problem of our Society. It is also there in our personal problems, but may not be so obvious because the 'rule overruling' at the bottom line in our decision making process may be subconscious. peace & Love On Jun 29, 4:51 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Tinker - I'd say we wake most days with a hangover from a > date-rape drug and barely know what is happening to us, rather knowing > we have been stiffed. The penny has not dropped, even though the > reasons for the trauma will be plain once we can see them. The > metaphor for our system might well be child abuse. I was worn out > long ago trying to get some reasonable change. It's more or less > impossible unless there are enough decent people about, and you have > some 'near and dear' support. Catalysts are often quickly poisoned. > In the UK we are probably on the verge of revolution - an unlikely > place, most would think. We are a clapped-out old colonial power in > an age of decadence (being Britain, this is decadence without > money!). No one gives a damn about anyone else - the best examples of > this are the bits and pieces of disaster reviews we get to see after > people die. Even those you might suppose to be our 'finest' - cops, > social workers, doctors, health visitors and the whole wad of > politicians - all these turn out to be utterly crap and incapable of > acting even on very clear evidence. It's clear they lie in internal > reporting and that supposed regulation is useless because it only > finds anything out after unnecessary deaths. I say revolution because > we are either going to find ways to work openly and have an open > politics, or we are going to spend a long time in the pit. I hope we > go forwards, but our politics is more or less non-existent or > infiltrated by interests that are far more powerful than our vote. > It would be lovely if Blair could be linked to "American interests" > long before the idiot Iraq fiasco (novels already have him or his wife > as CIA) - but the real issues concern most of us being uninformed, not > bright and so on - all severe problems for democratic solutions. The > answer is presumably not the old one of the great man and lies in > something more collective (bees and cockroaches manage it). This is > not obvious stuff by any means - as a populace we are easily > manipulable and our genetics predispose us to some behaviour that is > not democratic or rational. Most of us are swayed by advertising (and > in denial about it) and gullible to Madoff-like scams - hardly > surprising politicians can act by preventing access to information we > need (and the investigation processes to get to it) and promising > again on promises broken for the last hundred years. Maybe Tink has a > proven case, but he sure ain't revealed it to us - unlike the guy who > blew Madoff out to the SEC 10 years ago, raising them to Defcon levels > of inactivity. > > On 29 June, 08:57, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > from the "Art of War" by Sunzi in the 6th century B.C.E. "One may know how > > to conquer without being able to do it." .... "to see the sun and the moon > > is no sign of sharp sight; to hear the noise of thunder is no sign of a > > quick ear." > > Allan > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM, frantheman > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > On 29 Jun., 07:21, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > to not answer = 'no' answer > > > > > Doesn't it? :-) > > > > a question is not answered because readers don't consider it > > > worth answering. > > > > *** (wonders) Why am I answering this? ... *** > > > > Francis > > > ;o) > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
