The thread I misquoted was actually "Collective Mentality" back in
April.  It covers 112 posts in all, much of which I have just scanned
through.

A portion within the post on April 27 @ 10:47 pm you Tinker state>>>"
I think we need to
do something to get everybody off into it for a meeting to bring about
the change."

You continue in other posts to state>> "I can't say exactly how it
will be done. "

You also state>>"I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to
bring that 'super
mind' forward in our conscious mind. "

You reiterate with>>"Again, I can't actually say how it will be done.
I do have a pretty
sure idea of what will Not work. "

You said you were working on a thread titled The Wrong Way which I
don't imagine would contain any solutions but recognition of noted
failures, all of which I would likely agree with, but we still remain
without  a way and means of accomplishing the collective.

You suggested>>"We have to create a focus point in the separation."
and "The 'thing' in our mind?"

This is where it all starts to unravel, the creation of the "Thing".

You continue with>>"The focus point would be the beginning of unity."

Now we have the focus point, the thing and unity.

You then reply to heretic with>>"Allan, we are not talking about
starting another religion.
We are looking at the root of all religion, which is intentionally
good, and seeking a way to make it a common link amongst mankind
without all the BS. "

Still there is not a shred of direction but more recognition.

You address Rosey with>>"I believe the purpose of this discussion is
to find the key to " how "

Ah but yet another clue to the ongoing dilemma of the "how" which has
gone full circle to where we are now, probably several times over.

You finalize a paragraph to e space with "I think we need a way to
make it common knowledge."

So you are still stuck in the mud of perplexity with needing a way.

And so that ends your contribution to the Collective Mentality
thread.

So a quick rehash here>>

You think we need to do something but you don't know what.
Your thinking there is a way, you don't know what it is but you are
sure of all the ways it isn't.
You know that a focus point is needed in order for a "thing" to begin
a unity.
You are seeking a way and want to find the key that unlocks the answer
to "how?"


Okay, so now the question about what I don't understand!

How should we go about facilitating your "idea"?

Slip, R.I.P.






























On Jul 10, 11:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Slip, you started the 'Collective Consciousness' thread after our
> private conversation where I said;
> "I got this thing in my head saying there's a way to 'hook up'
> everybody to the collective intelligence. I need help to bring it out
> and make sense out of it.
> That is what brought me to Mind's Eye."
>
> You went off on the tangent from the idea I presented to you. You went
> straight into the 'pattern' that has to be broken for us to change the
> ways of Society.
>
> I am not evasive. You will not ask questions.
> I have presented the idea of establishing a common point of
> understanding as the beginning point of Unity.
> I have said that we need to recognize the common connection in our
> mind with a universal symbol for that common point of understanding.
> I have presented "the Feeling" as the way to recognize that
> connection.
>
> Please, please, please, ask a question about what you don't
> understand. What more do you want to know?
>
> peace & Love
>
> On Jul 9, 10:57 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think it would be better if you were where I am, but OK, let's start
> > from "square one".  YOU lay out the road map, or the instructional
> > plan, or the owners manual to your "Unique Idea" and then "WE" can
> > possibly see exactly what this idea is other than an "IDEA".   We were
> > together on the collective consciousness thread which I started but
> > somehow you have gone off on some obscure tangent which is void of
> > description and you continually remain evasive in face of membership
> > requests for specifics.  I haven't forgotten your post long gone in
> > which you tell tale of your subtleties which are intentionally
> > antagonistic and in which you claim to have been really good at.  The
> > cat and mouse games are boring so spell it out clearly, succinctly,
> > concisely and perhaps "WE" can "SEE" your "Unique" idea.  So far I
> > don't see anything that even remotely resembles an earnest attempt
> > other than that of the dangling bait technique, which is by now
> > getting very tiring.  Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is yet to come and
> > the future is wide open, so set the course, but at least make it
> > legible.
>
> > On Jul 9, 7:08 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > If your mind was there, you would be where I am, you are not.
>
> > > Yes it is a unique idea, I'm sorry you can't see it.
>
> > > If you did see it you would know how "the segment of humanity that
> > > "does not want unity"" would be affected by our higher power.
>
> > > I really do appreciate your concerned guidance. I've no interest in
> > > becoming a martyr.
>
> > > peace & Love
>
> > > On Jul 9, 5:17 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm afraid that you don't seem to understand is that my mind is
> > > > "there", as are others.  You don't have a new or exclusive idea.  Get
> > > > off the cloud Tinker.
> > > > Aside from that there is a problematic mammoth starring you in the
> > > > face, one that you fail to address, that being the segment of humanity
> > > > that "does not want unity".   They don't want your peace and love!
> > > > I think you should spend more time "talking" to them about your idea
> > > > in hopes that they might not consider chopping your head off and
> > > > putting it on the end of a pole.
>
> > > > On Jul 8, 11:48 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > The riddler has provided the answer, you do not allow your mind to
> > > > > explore the possibility.
>
> > > > > We can establish a common point of understanding for Unity to begin,
> > > > > let your mind go there.
>
> > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > On Jul 8, 11:17 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Why bother when the riddler can simply provide the answer, something
> > > > > > you have yet to do, I have enough taxing my mind as it is without
> > > > > > entertaining your mental goads.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 9:23 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > My friend, riddles have answers if you'll let your mind explore 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > possibility :-)
>
> > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 8, 12:52 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I think riddles are your forte tink.   ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 7, 6:27 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Not the same at all, hatred comes from denial of the 
> > > > > > > > > connection that
> > > > > > > > > is our common link.
>
> > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 7, 3:40 am, "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > And in a similar vein, feelimg of the opposite. Yep I guess 
> > > > > > > > > > we can be
> > > > > > > > > > united in both love and hate.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 7 July, 00:59, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes Lee, there is something we can all agree on.
> > > > > > > > > > > That is, the Feeling of the connection in our min, to 
> > > > > > > > > > > that which is
> > > > > > > > > > > other than our physical realm. The Feeling of goodness, 
> > > > > > > > > > > of Love and of
> > > > > > > > > > > beauty, and/or the Feeling of, cosmic consciousness 
> > > > > > > > > > > and/or the
> > > > > > > > > > > presence of God, is something that can be established as 
> > > > > > > > > > > the common
> > > > > > > > > > > link of mankind.
> > > > > > > > > > > It can cross the barriers of language and culture to 
> > > > > > > > > > > establish a
> > > > > > > > > > > beginning point of Unity.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:36 am, "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ohh I don't know.  We are all the same species, there 
> > > > > > > > > > > > must be
> > > > > > > > > > > > something that we can all agree on?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I mean if I punch a German in the face, I can almost 
> > > > > > > > > > > > garentee that the
> > > > > > > > > > > > look on said face will be virtualy the same as the look 
> > > > > > > > > > > > an Egyptian
> > > > > > > > > > > > would give me following the same treatment.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which put another less wordy way means, we all react to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > pain in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > same way, and I would guess happiness also.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 July, 23:21, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That you doubt the inherent value of our common 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > source doesn't matter,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you know it IS :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The I Ching, the Bible, the Koran and any other 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > theology or philosophy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that pretends to teach "the way" for mankind, yes, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > out the window.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No dogma or idealism will ever be able to cross the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > barriers of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > language and culture to establish Unity.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 1:11 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We may have started as one but we are many now and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether we will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever be one again remains to be seen.  Yet in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > another sense we are all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one since we had a common beginning but I doubt 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is of any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > inherent value.  Since we are many what about I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ching?  Shall we throw
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I Ching out the window?  (A small theft from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firesign Theatre, mea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > culpa.)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 3:08 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a common point for the cooperation of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unity to begin :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 2:15 pm, gruff <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's true Rigsy.  But we're just learning 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those arts.  And given a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dearth of cooperation, I'll opt for some 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > co-dependency in small
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doses.  It's a reasonable substitute.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 3, 1:41 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a big difference between 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > co-dependency and co-operation.- Hide quoted 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text -
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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