I take it you do understand that the comment is pertinent to the conversation concerning Tinkers "idea".
If there were a definitive path it would have been traveled upon and those whom have traveled would share the "How" of it. We have a definitive path to the moon and how to get to mars but we don't have one that can get you to the collective consciousness. As Molly indicated, it is all getting totally imbalanced. Explaining and re-explaining on countless occasions causes one's tenacity to weaken. Internet dialogue is already a difficult task without incongruous episodes. On Jul 11, 2:54 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > "No one has any definitive path or way which renders the whole of it > as > moot dialogue. .." - SD > > Slip, while I greatly appreciate your tenaciousness, IF I understand > your words above, I do question them. First as a skeptic, how do you > know such a thing to be true? Secondly, as having been connected with > mystics, such exists within this realm. Thirdly, a true way of > Integralism would fit the bill. . . all of this IF I grok your words. > > On Jul 11, 8:25 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > No one has any definitive path or way which renders the whole of it as > > moot dialogue. > > > This is all about Tinker going on about how no one understands his > > idea. Fact is I understood it in the beginning but it never went any > > further than cyclic chaos. I don't know which ego is more exhausting, > > that of e space or tinker. At least I have spent a significant amount > > of time and energy ping ponging with him but I'm running out of > > options other than to cease and desist and relinquish all. > > > As Molly put it......... > > "I hope that you don't think that it is simply of matter of taste > > here. I find it frustrating to have the conversations disrupted with > > personal attacks and the almost spamming on continually asserting the > > same personal idea, over and over, whether or not it is relevant to > > the conversation. Some good threads are dying because the Tinker > > insists on being the center of attention and draws it with his the > > world is against me and my good idea expression that is repeated in > > every conversation. At some point, the paranoid obsession must fall > > away, and I am surprised it hasn't by now, as he has been put on > > moderation often. I understand what he gets out of it. What do we > > get out of it? It is beyond being open to all ideas and styles of > > communication and on to being tolerant of destructive, abusive > > behavior. The fact that there are so many of us that do not engage > > him in any meaningful conversation, fewer all the time, tells us this > > is true. But still, I wonder what we are getting out of it because > > the fact is, it goes on and on...Do we really need the oppositional/ > > defiance so badly to move the conversation along? As I see it, it is > > more of a barrier to communication than a facilitator." > > Thanks Molly! > > > On Jul 11, 3:54 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > " You also state>>"I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to > > > bring that 'super mind' forward in our conscious mind." > > > > Slip, if it doesn't divert, I would suggest Aurobindo Ghose's > > > writings : The Integral Yoga ( Path / Way ) and Divine Life. He > > > actually speaks of the Supermind, what it is, how is it in the > > > cosmogonical structure, with a reference to us, as and how we are, and > > > goes on to prescribe the path of how to bring the Supermind into our > > > constant, even collective, consciousness. > > > > There is nothing to disagree with there, for me. But, each of us are > > > launched on our own respective paths, towards the same goals perhaps. > > > I would, in all probability, not suggest ' the ' path to anyone that I > > > know of, except with the intent to facilitate one's own self - > > > discovery. > > > > On Jul 11, 1:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The thread I misquoted was actually "Collective Mentality" back in > > > > April. It covers 112 posts in all, much of which I have just scanned > > > > through. > > > > > A portion within the post on April 27 @ 10:47 pm you Tinker state>>>" > > > > I think we need to > > > > do something to get everybody off into it for a meeting to bring about > > > > the change." > > > > > You continue in other posts to state>> "I can't say exactly how it > > > > will be done. " > > > > > You also state>>"I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to > > > > bring that 'super > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. " > > > > > You reiterate with>>"Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. > > > > I do have a pretty > > > > sure idea of what will Not work. " > > > > > You said you were working on a thread titled The Wrong Way which I > > > > don't imagine would contain any solutions but recognition of noted > > > > failures, all of which I would likely agree with, but we still remain > > > > without a way and means of accomplishing the collective. > > > > > You suggested>>"We have to create a focus point in the separation." > > > > and "The 'thing' in our mind?" > > > > > This is where it all starts to unravel, the creation of the "Thing". > > > > > You continue with>>"The focus point would be the beginning of unity." > > > > > Now we have the focus point, the thing and unity. > > > > > You then reply to heretic with>>"Allan, we are not talking about > > > > starting another religion. > > > > We are looking at the root of all religion, which is intentionally > > > > good, and seeking a way to make it a common link amongst mankind > > > > without all the BS. " > > > > > Still there is not a shred of direction but more recognition. > > > > > You address Rosey with>>"I believe the purpose of this discussion is > > > > to find the key to " how " > > > > > Ah but yet another clue to the ongoing dilemma of the "how" which has > > > > gone full circle to where we are now, probably several times over. > > > > > You finalize a paragraph to e space with "I think we need a way to > > > > make it common knowledge." > > > > > So you are still stuck in the mud of perplexity with needing a way. > > > > > And so that ends your contribution to the Collective Mentality > > > > thread. > > > > > So a quick rehash here>> > > > > > You think we need to do something but you don't know what. > > > > Your thinking there is a way, you don't know what it is but you are > > > > sure of all the ways it isn't. > > > > You know that a focus point is needed in order for a "thing" to begin > > > > a unity. > > > > You are seeking a way and want to find the key that unlocks the answer > > > > to "how?" > > > > > Okay, so now the question about what I don't understand! > > > > > How should we go about facilitating your "idea"? > > > > > Slip, R.I.P. > > > > > On Jul 10, 11:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Slip, you started the 'Collective Consciousness' thread after our > > > > > private conversation where I said; > > > > > "I got this thing in my head saying there's a way to 'hook up' > > > > > everybody to the collective intelligence. I need help to bring it out > > > > > and make sense out of it. > > > > > That is what brought me to Mind's Eye." > > > > > > You went off on the tangent from the idea I presented to you. You went > > > > > straight into the 'pattern' that has to be broken for us to change the > > > > > ways of Society. > > > > > > I am not evasive. You will not ask questions. > > > > > I have presented the idea of establishing a common point of > > > > > understanding as the beginning point of Unity. > > > > > I have said that we need to recognize the common connection in our > > > > > mind with a universal symbol for that common point of understanding. > > > > > I have presented "the Feeling" as the way to recognize that > > > > > connection. > > > > > > Please, please, please, ask a question about what you don't > > > > > understand. What more do you want to know? > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On Jul 9, 10:57 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think it would be better if you were where I am, but OK, let's > > > > > > start > > > > > > from "square one". YOU lay out the road map, or the instructional > > > > > > plan, or the owners manual to your "Unique Idea" and then "WE" can > > > > > > possibly see exactly what this idea is other than an "IDEA". We > > > > > > were > > > > > > together on the collective consciousness thread which I started but > > > > > > somehow you have gone off on some obscure tangent which is void of > > > > > > description and you continually remain evasive in face of membership > > > > > > requests for specifics. I haven't forgotten your post long gone in > > > > > > which you tell tale of your subtleties which are intentionally > > > > > > antagonistic and in which you claim to have been really good at. > > > > > > The > > > > > > cat and mouse games are boring so spell it out clearly, succinctly, > > > > > > concisely and perhaps "WE" can "SEE" your "Unique" idea. So far I > > > > > > don't see anything that even remotely resembles an earnest attempt > > > > > > other than that of the dangling bait technique, which is by now > > > > > > getting very tiring. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is yet to come and > > > > > > the future is wide open, so set the course, but at least make it > > > > > > legible. > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 7:08 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > If your mind was there, you would be where I am, you are not. > > > > > > > > Yes it is a unique idea, I'm sorry you can't see it. > > > > > > > > If you did see it you would know how "the segment of humanity that > > > > > > > "does not want unity"" would be affected by our higher power. > > > > > > > > I really do appreciate your concerned guidance. I've no interest > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > becoming a martyr. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 5:17 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid that you don't seem to understand is that my mind is > > > > > > > > "there", as are others. You don't have a new or exclusive > > > > > > > > idea. Get > > > > > > > > off the cloud Tinker. > > > > > > > > Aside from that there is a problematic mammoth starring you in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > face, one that you fail to address, that being the segment of > > > > > > > > humanity > > > > > > > > that "does not want unity". They don't want your peace and > > > > > > > > love! > > > > > > > > I think you should spend more time "talking" to them about your > > > > > > > > idea > > > > > > > > in hopes that they might not consider chopping your head off and > > > > > > > > putting it on the end of a > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
