"I sincerely wish he breaks out of his past and find his peace."

Vam, you should study the first line of the fourth page. There's no
need for your concern.

peace & Love

On Jul 12, 9:09 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah, Gruff, you are the sleuth !
>
> Thank you for enabling us to know more about Mr Tinker's life, beyond
> what he'd come across through his posts here.  I sincerely wish he
> breaks out of his past and find his peace.
>
> On Jul 12, 6:40 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Tinker's bio 
> > ....http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache%3AoLSC_dvy11YJ%3Awww.infobon...
>
> > On Jul 11, 5:18 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Thank you Slip.
> > > I've had high hopes of you from the beginning.
> > > I've recently told that I've been working on this for over eight
> > > years. I have also told that I have been impeccably honest.
> > > The times I said "I can't" were true in the fact that I was following
> > > a plan trying another way of breaking through. "I do have a pretty
> > > sure idea of what will Not work.", comes from the eight years of
> > > experience. The pattern of animosity developing and my relating it to
> > > 'the fear of the unknown" is also well grounded with repeated similar
> > > experiences.
>
> > > The plan has run its course. The results were absolutely typical,
> > > until yesterday.
> > > Lee asked the question, and I felt (hoped and prayed) that you were on
> > > the verge of asking, and you did today.
> > > I sent him this link and asked that he not reveal it for a few 
> > > days.www.BLTR.org
>
> > > It's a very simple, but that simplicity 'must' be preserved by simply
> > > "*teaching the world a word*". If an explanation  of how it will work
> > > becomes involved in the 'mass presentation' it will become like a
> > > religion and fail.
>
> > > Thanks again man. I Love you.
>
> > > peace & Love
>
> > > On Jul 11, 3:00 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > The thread I misquoted was actually "Collective Mentality" back in
> > > > April.  It covers 112 posts in all, much of which I have just scanned
> > > > through.
>
> > > > A portion within the post on April 27 @ 10:47 pm you Tinker state>>>"
> > > > I think we need to
> > > > do something to get everybody off into it for a meeting to bring about
> > > > the change."
>
> > > > You continue in other posts to state>> "I can't say exactly how it
> > > > will be done. "
>
> > > > You also state>>"I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to
> > > > bring that 'super
> > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. "
>
> > > > You reiterate with>>"Again, I can't actually say how it will be done.
> > > > I do have a pretty
> > > > sure idea of what will Not work. "
>
> > > > You said you were working on a thread titled The Wrong Way which I
> > > > don't imagine would contain any solutions but recognition of noted
> > > > failures, all of which I would likely agree with, but we still remain
> > > > without  a way and means of accomplishing the collective.
>
> > > > You suggested>>"We have to create a focus point in the separation."
> > > > and "The 'thing' in our mind?"
>
> > > > This is where it all starts to unravel, the creation of the "Thing".
>
> > > > You continue with>>"The focus point would be the beginning of unity."
>
> > > > Now we have the focus point, the thing and unity.
>
> > > > You then reply to heretic with>>"Allan, we are not talking about
> > > > starting another religion.
> > > > We are looking at the root of all religion, which is intentionally
> > > > good, and seeking a way to make it a common link amongst mankind
> > > > without all the BS. "
>
> > > > Still there is not a shred of direction but more recognition.
>
> > > > You address Rosey with>>"I believe the purpose of this discussion is
> > > > to find the key to " how "
>
> > > > Ah but yet another clue to the ongoing dilemma of the "how" which has
> > > > gone full circle to where we are now, probably several times over.
>
> > > > You finalize a paragraph to e space with "I think we need a way to
> > > > make it common knowledge."
>
> > > > So you are still stuck in the mud of perplexity with needing a way.
>
> > > > And so that ends your contribution to the Collective Mentality
> > > > thread.
>
> > > > So a quick rehash here>>
>
> > > > You think we need to do something but you don't know what.
> > > > Your thinking there is a way, you don't know what it is but you are
> > > > sure of all the ways it isn't.
> > > > You know that a focus point is needed in order for a "thing" to begin
> > > > a unity.
> > > > You are seeking a way and want to find the key that unlocks the answer
> > > > to "how?"
>
> > > > Okay, so now the question about what I don't understand!
>
> > > > How should we go about facilitating your "idea"?
>
> > > > Slip, R.I.P.
>
> > > > On Jul 10, 11:04 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Slip, you started the 'Collective Consciousness' thread after our
> > > > > private conversation where I said;
> > > > > "I got this thing in my head saying there's a way to 'hook up'
> > > > > everybody to the collective intelligence. I need help to bring it out
> > > > > and make sense out of it.
> > > > > That is what brought me to Mind's Eye."
>
> > > > > You went off on the tangent from the idea I presented to you. You went
> > > > > straight into the 'pattern' that has to be broken for us to change the
> > > > > ways of Society.
>
> > > > > I am not evasive. You will not ask questions.
> > > > > I have presented the idea of establishing a common point of
> > > > > understanding as the beginning point of Unity.
> > > > > I have said that we need to recognize the common connection in our
> > > > > mind with a universal symbol for that common point of understanding.
> > > > > I have presented "the Feeling" as the way to recognize that
> > > > > connection.
>
> > > > > Please, please, please, ask a question about what you don't
> > > > > understand. What more do you want to know?
>
> > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 10:57 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I think it would be better if you were where I am, but OK, let's 
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > from "square one".  YOU lay out the road map, or the instructional
> > > > > > plan, or the owners manual to your "Unique Idea" and then "WE" can
> > > > > > possibly see exactly what this idea is other than an "IDEA".   We 
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > together on the collective consciousness thread which I started but
> > > > > > somehow you have gone off on some obscure tangent which is void of
> > > > > > description and you continually remain evasive in face of membership
> > > > > > requests for specifics.  I haven't forgotten your post long gone in
> > > > > > which you tell tale of your subtleties which are intentionally
> > > > > > antagonistic and in which you claim to have been really good at.  
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > cat and mouse games are boring so spell it out clearly, succinctly,
> > > > > > concisely and perhaps "WE" can "SEE" your "Unique" idea.  So far I
> > > > > > don't see anything that even remotely resembles an earnest attempt
> > > > > > other than that of the dangling bait technique, which is by now
> > > > > > getting very tiring.  Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is yet to come and
> > > > > > the future is wide open, so set the course, but at least make it
> > > > > > legible.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 7:08 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > If your mind was there, you would be where I am, you are not.
>
> > > > > > > Yes it is a unique idea, I'm sorry you can't see it.
>
> > > > > > > If you did see it you would know how "the segment of humanity that
> > > > > > > "does not want unity"" would be affected by our higher power.
>
> > > > > > > I really do appreciate your concerned guidance. I've no interest 
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > becoming a martyr.
>
> > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 9, 5:17 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I'm afraid that you don't seem to understand is that my mind is
> > > > > > > > "there", as are others.  You don't have a new or exclusive 
> > > > > > > > idea.  Get
> > > > > > > > off the cloud Tinker.
> > > > > > > > Aside from that there is a problematic mammoth starring you in 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > face, one that you fail to address, that being the segment of 
> > > > > > > > humanity
> > > > > > > > that "does not want unity".   They don't want your peace and 
> > > > > > > > love!
> > > > > > > > I think you should spend more time "talking" to them about your 
> > > > > > > > idea
> > > > > > > > in hopes that they might not consider chopping your head off and
> > > > > > > > putting it on the end of a pole.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 11:48 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > The riddler has provided the answer, you do not allow your 
> > > > > > > > > mind to
> > > > > > > > > explore the possibility.
>
> > > > > > > > > We can establish a common point of understanding for Unity to 
> > > > > > > > > begin,
> > > > > > > > > let your mind go there.
>
> > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 11:17 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Why bother when the riddler can simply provide the answer, 
> > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > you have yet to do, I have enough taxing my mind as it is 
> > > > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > entertaining your mental goads.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 9:23 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > My friend, riddles have answers if you'll let your mind 
> > > > > > > > > > > explore the
> > > > > > > > > > > possibility :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 12:52 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think riddles are your forte tink.   ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 7, 6:27 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Not the same at all, hatred comes from denial of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > connection that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is our common link.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 7, 3:40 am, "[email protected]" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And in a similar vein, feelimg of the opposite. Yep 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess we can be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > united in both love and hate.
>
> ...
>
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