So you are saying that you have noticed that the divorce rates are less now than say 20 years ago?
As to violence I am most assuredly a man, and as has already been discussed I abhour violence, yet it is a handy tool to use, and I have not been slow in using it when I must. Like any tool though, I am of the opinion that the right tool for the right job makes life soooo much easyer. On 23 July, 18:43, "Lorraine Belge" <[email protected]> wrote: > I disagree, having been a marriage counselor for multiple years, I have seen > people attempt (successfully) to pull together and be forced, yes forced > because they don't have the numerous choices made possible by money, to see > other alternatives. As a result you have the old fashioned marriage where > people realize that they need to make the best of what they think is a bad > situation and all of a sudden it gets better. Violence is the result of > inherent tendencies to solve difficulties by physical means, frequently a > man's first choice, altho sometimes a women will do it also, But men are > physical in their formulations of situations and respond in like kind. they > are by nature the hunter and women the gatherer. But civilization has > brought with it numerous choices, including counselors, pastors, books, self > help, internet, etc. even friends and blogs, etc. hope this does not sound > negative, only my point of view from experience. Many good wishes and > kindness go your way. Namaste > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: deripsni<mailto:[email protected]> > To: "Minds Eye"<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:42 AM > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: killers > > I guess staying in bad marriages is even more likely to cause violence > than divorces. Occurances of violence dominate the news unfortunately. > Its a bad bad world out there it seems. I live in a place where there > is not much violence, no gang problems, no racial problems to speak > of. I guess I am just blessed not to live in an area of high crime but > I cringe when I watch CNN. > > On Jul 23, 8:49 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > I heard divorces were happening less often. People are staying in bad > > relationships so they won't be alone during the recession. > > > dj > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, > deripsni<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Yes, I presume one has to be alive to commit an act of violence ;-] > > > But there must be more instigating factors these days with kids > > > growing up watching carnage on TV, masses of people stuck in traffic > > > jams, workers losing their jobs, higher divorce rates, etc. Denser > > > poplulation areas have to increase the likelihood of violence. > > > > By the way, your cat did not commit an act of violence, it was only > > > reacting to an instinctive urge. > > > > On Jul 23, 7:36 am, > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > wrote: > > >> I'm pretty sure that it is simply life that 'breeds' violence. I mean > > >> I have never seem anything dead attack anything else. Fictional > > >> zombies not-withstanding. > > > >> On a personal note, my 13 year old had his first taste of death the > > >> other day. That'st right a cat(the female one) got a hold of one of > > >> his hamsters. Hamster is no more, and the cat has subsequently been > > >> renamed 'murderer' by my young boy child. > > > >> On 20 July, 13:10, deripsni > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> > Maybe knowledge breeds violence? In the unlikely case that a man has > > >> > not been introduced to religion or politics, would he still have the > > >> > same propensity to kill as the modern man? Maybe, but the reasons > > >> > would be fewer, say for perceived territorial infringement, or > > >> > protection of family and food. > > > >> > I am sure that early man, before being saturated with media, > politics, > > >> > religious dogma, and over-population, was a much more peaceful > animal. > > >> > A person's conscience seems to dictate activity ranges, and today's > > >> > man has had his conscience mezmerized by over-information, over- > > >> > breeding, over-indulgence, etc. Unfortuately I cannot forsee a > > >> > reversal in this trend short of some global catastrophe that wipes > out > > >> > a large number of the human animals that inhabit this rock. > > > >> > Many can speculate as to what breeds violence but, in my opinion, a > > >> > healthy conscience precludes any unsolicited violent activity. I > think > > >> > a good question to ask is 'what causes the deterioration of a healthy > > >> > conscience?'. Unfortunately, I think there are too many answers to > > >> > that question. > > > >> > On Jul 18, 6:42 pm, Alan Wostenberg > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> > > A common belief today is that religion breeds violence. Isn't this > > >> > > like saying politics is violent? I read the below today, and it > gave > > >> > > me food for thought, particularly that last sentence: > > > >> > > "Some kill because their faiths specifically command them to do so; > > >> > > some kill though their faiths explicitly forbid them to do so; and > > >> > > some kill because they have no faith and hence believe all things > are > > >> > > permitted to them. Polytheists, monotheists, and atheists kill. Men > > >> > > kill for their gods, or for their God, or because there is no God > and > > >> > > human destiny must be shaped by gigantic exertions of human will. > They > > >> > > kill out of pursuit of universal truths, and out of fidelity to > tribal > > >> > > allegiances; for faith, blood and soil, empire, national greatness, > > >> > > "socialist utopia", capitalism, and "democratization". Men always > seek > > >> > > gods in who's name they may perform great deeds or commit > unspeakable > > >> > > atrocity, even if those gods are not gods but "tribal honor", or > > >> > > "genetic imperatives" or "social ideals" or "human destiny" or > > >> > > "liberal democracy". Then again men also kill on account of money, > > >> > > land, love, pride, hatred, envy or ambition. ... The truth is that > > >> > > religion and irreligion are cultural variables, but killing is a > human > > >> > > constant"(*) > > > >> > > (*) David Bently Hart, _atheist delusion_ pg > 12http://www.librarything.com/work/book/47946437-Hidequotedtext - > > > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
