I don't think there's anyone who would confuse Lee or I with a woman, Don...we're both pretty grizzled old bastards. Yet I have two hoops on each side. Your prejudices are showing.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good thing I don't need my chin as it is still on the floor. My > father would have disowned me if I even MENTIONED getting an ear > pierced. The idea actually makes me nauseous. My mom would have > happily helped me pick out ear rings and taught me to buff my > fingernails though. My how the times do change. Pretty soon our > androgynous culture will have us all in skirts. Ouch. Chaffing. > > dj > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM, > [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hah yes indeed, there are differances between the genders, and I mean > > more than then physical. My wife is an acomplished wordsmith and can > > smite a man at 9, no 12 paces! > > > > I sorta scared my oldest son last night. His mother planned to take > > him to get his ear pireced today rigth at the top through the > > cartalidge, I advised him that he would be better off going to a > > proper piercing shop as the needle they use is hollow and will core > > out a piece of the cartalidge rather than whacking a blunt stus > > through as would happen if a piercing gun is used. I think he may have > > changed his mind, but I told him this morning that I only offered > > advice, he need not take it. My wife told me off for scaring him > > which in turn scared me! > > > > Damn me I may have to rethink this whole blog thing! > > > > On 24 July, 14:23, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I remember a couple of slaps I made to males when I was in college- > >> one to a doctor and the other to a date at Mr. Kelly's- a jazz > >> nightclub in Chicago. There was no response but at my 20 year reunion, > >> J told me the doctor had felt sad. He was older and his first wife had > >> committed suicide- much too complicated for a 18 year old- so I took > >> the easy way out. J was abandoned by her doctor husband- left > >> penniless.//I like escape best of all! LOL Think of Holly Golightly > >> climbing out of window! (Breakfast at Tiffany's)//I must admit using > >> the professions like lawyers and doctors- even a shrink- to save > >> money- I thought- but they were all costly. Some very funny stories, > >> however.// It is interesting how a man and a woman learn to protect > >> themselves, isn't it? Sometimes I would be over-generous just to get > >> rid of someone and it worked. Also a female can use words as a weapon. > >> But I think I am also ever the student of plots and am curious so I > >> took risks. That doesn't make me a bitch. I had very feisty parents > >> and they hoped to spare me life's battles so they tried to make me a > >> lady but battles loom anyway and you'd better figure out how to fight > >> or run. > >> > >> On Jul 24, 7:15 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Heh Rigsy in my opinion and experiances as a small man, the brute > >> > strengh of a male is easy enought to counter if you quick. > >> > >> > My dad well, he is not great man nor a great dad, but I have taken on > >> > board some of what he tried to instill in me, namely 'Lee you are > >> > small, and so there is no shame in picking up half a brick, don't let > >> > yourself get beaten' and the ever so wise 'When you are sorround by a > >> > group always hit firts and always the biggest one of them' > >> > >> > What I shall pass down to my children though is the safer 'run, run > >> > boy, run like fuck' > >> > >> > On 24 July, 12:22, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > > There are a multitude of ways to "kill" someone off besides with a > >> > > weapon or fists but that, perhaps, is a topic for another thread. I > >> > > doubt I could ever phsically kill someone but maybe I have simply/ > >> > > narrowly escaped those life or death situations. Regarding the > "death" > >> > > of relationships, there seems to be a long period of self- > >> > > justification followed by a more rational appraisal- and the same > >> > > might also be said in the casting aside of old core > beliefs/behaviors > >> > > and taking up new ones. Physically, I am not equipped to counter the > >> > > brute strength of a male but I see that women are now engaging in > >> > > martial arts and carrying pink stun guns and pistols plus entering > the > >> > > military in combat roles. No one runs off to hide in a convent! :-) > At > >> > > any rate, there are legal and social actions available to even > scores > >> > > or protect oneself/family. The sad thing is that they are sometimes > >> > > necessary which further disappoints ones view of the human race. > >> > > Afterall, you have little control over the motives or mindsets of > >> > > other people. > >> > >> > > On Jul 24, 4:37 am, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> > > > So you are saying that you have noticed that the divorce rates are > >> > > > less now than say 20 years ago? > >> > >> > > > As to violence I am most assuredly a man, and as has already been > >> > > > discussed I abhour violence, yet it is a handy tool to use, and I > have > >> > > > not been slow in using it when I must. Like any tool though, I am > of > >> > > > the opinion that the right tool for the right job makes life soooo > >> > > > much easyer. > >> > >> > > > On 23 July, 18:43, "Lorraine Belge" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > I disagree, having been a marriage counselor for multiple years, > I have seen people attempt (successfully) to pull together and be forced, > yes forced because they don't have the numerous choices made possible by > money, to see other alternatives. As a result you have the old fashioned > marriage where people realize that they need to make the best of what they > think is a bad situation and all of a sudden it gets better. Violence is the > result of inherent tendencies to solve difficulties by physical means, > frequently a man's first choice, altho sometimes a women will do it also, > But men are physical in their formulations of situations and respond in like > kind. they are by nature the hunter and women the gatherer. But civilization > has brought with it numerous choices, including counselors, pastors, books, > self help, internet, etc. even friends and blogs, etc. hope this does not > sound negative, only my point of view from experience. Many good wishes and > kindness go your way. Namaste > >> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > > From: deripsni<mailto:[email protected]> > >> > > > > To: "Minds Eye"<mailto:[email protected]> > >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:42 AM > >> > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: killers > >> > >> > > > > I guess staying in bad marriages is even more likely to cause > violence > >> > > > > than divorces. Occurances of violence dominate the news > unfortunately. > >> > > > > Its a bad bad world out there it seems. I live in a place where > there > >> > > > > is not much violence, no gang problems, no racial problems to > speak > >> > > > > of. I guess I am just blessed not to live in an area of high > crime but > >> > > > > I cringe when I watch CNN. > >> > >> > > > > On Jul 23, 8:49 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > > > I heard divorces were happening less often. People are staying > in bad > >> > > > > > relationships so they won't be alone during the recession. > >> > >> > > > > > dj > >> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, deripsni<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > > Yes, I presume one has to be alive to commit an act of > violence ;-] > >> > > > > > > But there must be more instigating factors these days with > kids > >> > > > > > > growing up watching carnage on TV, masses of people stuck in > traffic > >> > > > > > > jams, workers losing their jobs, higher divorce rates, etc. > Denser > >> > > > > > > poplulation areas have to increase the likelihood of > violence. > >> > >> > > > > > > By the way, your cat did not commit an act of violence, it > was only > >> > > > > > > reacting to an instinctive urge. > >> > >> > > > > > > On Jul 23, 7:36 am, "[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected] > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> I'm pretty sure that it is simply life that 'breeds' > violence. I mean > >> > > > > > >> I have never seem anything dead attack anything else. > Fictional > >> > > > > > >> zombies not-withstanding. > >> > >> > > > > > >> On a personal note, my 13 year old had his first taste of > death the > >> > > > > > >> other day. That'st right a cat(the female one) got a hold > of one of > >> > > > > > >> his hamsters. Hamster is no more, and the cat has > subsequently been > >> > > > > > >> renamed 'murderer' by my young boy child. > >> > >> > > > > > >> On 20 July, 13:10, deripsni <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > >> > Maybe knowledge breeds violence? In the unlikely case > that a man has > >> > > > > > >> > not been introduced to religion or politics, would he > still have the > >> > > > > > >> > same propensity to kill as the modern man? Maybe, but the > reasons > >> > > > > > >> > would be fewer, say for perceived territorial > infringement, or > >> > > > > > >> > protection of family and food. > >> > >> > > > > > >> > I am sure that early man, before being saturated with > media, politics, > >> > > > > > >> > religious dogma, and over-population, was a much more > peaceful animal. > >> > > > > > >> > A person's conscience seems to dictate activity ranges, > and today's > >> > > > > > >> > man has had his conscience mezmerized by > over-information, over- > >> > > > > > >> > breeding, over-indulgence, etc. Unfortuately I cannot > forsee a > >> > > > > > >> > reversal in this trend short of some global catastrophe > that wipes out > >> > > > > > >> > a large number of the human animals that inhabit this > rock. > >> > >> > > > > > >> > Many can speculate as to what breeds violence but, in my > opinion, a > >> > > > > > >> > healthy conscience precludes any unsolicited violent > activity. I think > >> > > > > > >> > a good question to ask is 'what causes the deterioration > of a healthy > >> > > > > > >> > conscience?'. Unfortunately, I think there are too many > answers to > >> > > > > > >> > that question. > >> > >> > > > > > >> > On Jul 18, 6:42 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > A common belief today is that religion breeds violence. > Isn't this > >> > > > > > >> > > like saying politics is violent? I read the below > today, and it gave > >> > > > > > >> > > me food for thought, particularly that last sentence: > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > "Some kill because their faiths specifically command > them to do so; > >> > > > > > >> > > some kill though their faiths explicitly forbid them to > do so; and > >> > > > > > >> > > some kill because they have no faith and hence believe > all things are > >> > > > > > >> > > permitted to them. Polytheists, monotheists, and > atheists kill. Men > >> > > > > > >> > > kill for their gods, or for their God, or because there > is no God and > >> > > > > > >> > > human destiny must be shaped by gigantic exertions of > human will. They > >> > > > > > >> > > kill out of pursuit of universal truths, and out of > fidelity to tribal > >> > > > > > >> > > allegiances; for faith, blood and soil, empire, > national greatness, > >> > > > > > >> > > "socialist utopia", capitalism, and "democratization". > Men always seek > >> > > > > > >> > > gods in who's name they may perform great deeds or > commit unspeakable > >> > > > > > >> > > atrocity, even if those gods are not gods but "tribal > honor", or > >> > > > > > >> > > "genetic imperatives" or "social ideals" or "human > destiny" or > >> > > > > > >> > > "liberal democracy". Then again men also kill on > account of money, > >> > > > > > >> > > land, love, pride, hatred, envy or ambition. ... The > truth is that > >> > > > > > >> > > religion and irreligion are cultural variables, but > killing is a human > >> > >> ... > >> > >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
