I remember a couple of slaps I made to males when I was in college- one to a doctor and the other to a date at Mr. Kelly's- a jazz nightclub in Chicago. There was no response but at my 20 year reunion, J told me the doctor had felt sad. He was older and his first wife had committed suicide- much too complicated for a 18 year old- so I took the easy way out. J was abandoned by her doctor husband- left penniless.//I like escape best of all! LOL Think of Holly Golightly climbing out of window! (Breakfast at Tiffany's)//I must admit using the professions like lawyers and doctors- even a shrink- to save money- I thought- but they were all costly. Some very funny stories, however.// It is interesting how a man and a woman learn to protect themselves, isn't it? Sometimes I would be over-generous just to get rid of someone and it worked. Also a female can use words as a weapon. But I think I am also ever the student of plots and am curious so I took risks. That doesn't make me a bitch. I had very feisty parents and they hoped to spare me life's battles so they tried to make me a lady but battles loom anyway and you'd better figure out how to fight or run.
On Jul 24, 7:15�am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Heh Rigsy in my opinion and experiances as a small man, the brute > strengh of a male is easy enought to counter if you quick. > > My dad well, he is not great man nor a great dad, but I have taken on > board some of what he tried to instill in me, namely 'Lee you are > small, and so there is no shame in picking up half a brick, don't let > yourself get beaten' �and the ever so wise 'When you are sorround by a > group always hit firts and always the biggest one of them' > > What I shall pass down to my children though is the safer 'run, run > boy, run like fuck' > > On 24 July, 12:22, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > There are a multitude of ways to "kill" someone off besides with a > > weapon or fists but that, perhaps, is a topic for another thread. I > > doubt I could ever phsically kill someone but maybe I have simply/ > > narrowly escaped those life or death situations. Regarding the "death" > > of relationships, there seems to be a long period of self- > > justification followed by a more rational appraisal- and the same > > might also be said in the casting aside of old core beliefs/behaviors > > and taking up new ones. Physically, I am not equipped to counter the > > brute strength of a male but I see that women are now engaging in > > martial arts and carrying pink stun guns and pistols plus entering the > > military in combat roles. No one runs off to hide in a convent! :-) At > > any rate, there are legal and social actions available to even scores > > or protect oneself/family. The sad thing is that they are sometimes > > necessary which further disappoints ones view of the human race. > > Afterall, you have little control over the motives or mindsets of > > other people. > > > On Jul 24, 4:37 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > So you are saying that you have noticed that the divorce rates are > > > less now than say 20 years ago? > > > > As to violence I am most assuredly a man, and as has already been > > > discussed I abhour violence, yet it is a handy tool to use, and I have > > > not been slow in using it when I must. Like any tool though, I am of > > > the opinion that the right tool for the right job makes life soooo > > > much easyer. > > > > On 23 July, 18:43, "Lorraine Belge" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I disagree, having been a marriage counselor for multiple years, I have > > > > seen people attempt (successfully) to pull together and be forced, yes > > > > forced because they don't have the numerous choices made possible by > > > > money, to see other alternatives. As a result you have the old > > > > fashioned marriage where people realize that they need to make the best > > > > of what they think is a bad situation and all of a sudden it gets > > > > better. Violence is the result of inherent tendencies to solve > > > > difficulties by physical means, frequently a man's first choice, altho > > > > sometimes a women will do it also, But men are physical in their > > > > formulations of situations and respond in like kind. they are by nature > > > > the hunter and women the gatherer. But civilization has brought with it > > > > numerous choices, including counselors, pastors, books, self help, > > > > internet, etc. even friends and blogs, etc. hope this does not sound > > > > negative, only my point of view from experience. Many good wishes and > > > > kindness go your way. Namaste > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: deripsni<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > To: "Minds Eye"<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:42 AM > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: killers > > > > > I guess staying in bad marriages is even more likely to cause violence > > > > than divorces. Occurances of violence dominate the news unfortunately. > > > > Its a bad bad world out there it seems. I live in a place where there > > > > is not much violence, no gang problems, no racial problems to speak > > > > of. I guess I am just blessed not to live in an area of high crime but > > > > I cringe when I watch CNN. > > > > > On Jul 23, 8:49 am, Don Johnson > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > I heard divorces were happening less often. People are staying in bad > > > > > relationships so they won't be alone during the recession. > > > > > > dj > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, > > > > > deripsni<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I presume one has to be alive to commit an act of violence ;-] > > > > > > But there must be more instigating factors these days with kids > > > > > > growing up watching carnage on TV, masses of people stuck in traffic > > > > > > jams, workers losing their jobs, higher divorce rates, etc. Denser > > > > > > poplulation areas have to increase the likelihood of violence. > > > > > > > By the way, your cat did not commit an act of violence, it was only > > > > > > reacting to an instinctive urge. > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 7:36 am, > > > > > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> I'm pretty sure that it is simply life that 'breeds' violence. I > > > > > >> mean > > > > > >> I have never seem anything dead attack anything else. Fictional > > > > > >> zombies not-withstanding. > > > > > > >> On a personal note, my 13 year old had his first taste of death the > > > > > >> other day. That'st right a cat(the female one) got a hold of one of > > > > > >> his hamsters. Hamster is no more, and the cat has subsequently been > > > > > >> renamed 'murderer' by my young boy child. > > > > > > >> On 20 July, 13:10, deripsni > > > > > >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Maybe knowledge breeds violence? In the unlikely case that a man > > > > > >> > has > > > > > >> > not been introduced to religion or politics, would he still have > > > > > >> > the > > > > > >> > same propensity to kill as the modern man? Maybe, but the reasons > > > > > >> > would be fewer, say for perceived territorial infringement, or > > > > > >> > protection of family and food. > > > > > > >> > I am sure that early man, before being saturated with media, > > > > > >> > politics, > > > > > >> > religious dogma, and over-population, was a much more peaceful > > > > > >> > animal. > > > > > >> > A person's conscience seems to dictate activity ranges, and > > > > > >> > today's > > > > > >> > man has had his conscience mezmerized by over-information, over- > > > > > >> > breeding, over-indulgence, etc. Unfortuately I cannot forsee a > > > > > >> > reversal in this trend short of some global catastrophe that > > > > > >> > wipes out > > > > > >> > a large number of the human animals that inhabit this rock. > > > > > > >> > Many can speculate as to what breeds violence but, in my > > > > > >> > opinion, a > > > > > >> > healthy conscience precludes any unsolicited violent activity. I > > > > > >> > think > > > > > >> > a good question to ask is 'what causes the deterioration of a > > > > > >> > healthy > > > > > >> > conscience?'. Unfortunately, I think there are too many answers > > > > > >> > to > > > > > >> > that question. > > > > > > >> > On Jul 18, 6:42 pm, Alan Wostenberg > > > > > >> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > A common belief today is that religion breeds violence. Isn't > > > > > >> > > this > > > > > >> > > like saying politics is violent? I read the below today, and > > > > > >> > > it gave > > > > > >> > > me food for thought, particularly that last sentence: > > > > > > >> > > "Some kill because their faiths specifically command them to > > > > > >> > > do so; > > > > > >> > > some kill though their faiths explicitly forbid them to do so; > > > > > >> > > and > > > > > >> > > some kill because they have no faith and hence believe all > > > > > >> > > things are > > > > > >> > > permitted to them. Polytheists, monotheists, and atheists > > > > > >> > > kill. Men > > > > > >> > > kill for their gods, or for their God, or because there is no > > > > > >> > > God and > > > > > >> > > human destiny must be shaped by gigantic exertions of human > > > > > >> > > will. They > > > > > >> > > kill out of pursuit of universal truths, and out of fidelity > > > > > >> > > to tribal > > > > > >> > > allegiances; for faith, blood and soil, empire, national > > > > > >> > > greatness, > > > > > >> > > "socialist utopia", capitalism, and "democratization". Men > > > > > >> > > always seek > > > > > >> > > gods in who's name they may perform great deeds or commit > > > > > >> > > unspeakable > > > > > >> > > atrocity, even if those gods are not gods but "tribal honor", > > > > > >> > > or > > > > > >> > > "genetic imperatives" or "social ideals" or "human destiny" or > > > > > >> > > "liberal democracy". Then again men also kill on account of > > > > > >> > > money, > > > > > >> > > land, love, pride, hatred, envy or ambition. ... The truth is > > > > > >> > > that > > > > > >> > > religion and irreligion are cultural variables, but killing is > > > > > >> > > a human > > > > > >> > > constant"(*) > > > > > > >> > > (*) David Bently Hart, _atheist delusion_ pg > > > > > >> > > 12http://www.librarything.com/work/book/47946437-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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