Hey, folks can do whatever they want. I'm queasy when it comes to self-inflicted pain. I don't have any tatoos either.
dj On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Chris Jenkins<[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think there's anyone who would confuse Lee or I with a woman, > Don...we're both pretty grizzled old bastards. Yet I have two hoops on each > side. Your prejudices are showing. > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Good thing I don't need my chin as it is still on the floor. My >> father would have disowned me if I even MENTIONED getting an ear >> pierced. The idea actually makes me nauseous. My mom would have >> happily helped me pick out ear rings and taught me to buff my >> fingernails though. My how the times do change. Pretty soon our >> androgynous culture will have us all in skirts. Ouch. Chaffing. >> >> dj >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM, >> [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Hah yes indeed, there are differances between the genders, and I mean >> > more than then physical. My wife is an acomplished wordsmith and can >> > smite a man at 9, no 12 paces! >> > >> > I sorta scared my oldest son last night. His mother planned to take >> > him to get his ear pireced today rigth at the top through the >> > cartalidge, I advised him that he would be better off going to a >> > proper piercing shop as the needle they use is hollow and will core >> > out a piece of the cartalidge rather than whacking a blunt stus >> > through as would happen if a piercing gun is used. I think he may have >> > changed his mind, but I told him this morning that I only offered >> > advice, he need not take it. My wife told me off for scaring him >> > which in turn scared me! >> > >> > Damn me I may have to rethink this whole blog thing! >> > >> > On 24 July, 14:23, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I remember a couple of slaps I made to males when I was in college- >> >> one to a doctor and the other to a date at Mr. Kelly's- a jazz >> >> nightclub in Chicago. There was no response but at my 20 year reunion, >> >> J told me the doctor had felt sad. He was older and his first wife had >> >> committed suicide- much too complicated for a 18 year old- so I took >> >> the easy way out. J was abandoned by her doctor husband- left >> >> penniless.//I like escape best of all! LOL Think of Holly Golightly >> >> climbing out of window! (Breakfast at Tiffany's)//I must admit using >> >> the professions like lawyers and doctors- even a shrink- to save >> >> money- I thought- but they were all costly. Some very funny stories, >> >> however.// It is interesting how a man and a woman learn to protect >> >> themselves, isn't it? Sometimes I would be over-generous just to get >> >> rid of someone and it worked. Also a female can use words as a weapon. >> >> But I think I am also ever the student of plots and am curious so I >> >> took risks. That doesn't make me a bitch. I had very feisty parents >> >> and they hoped to spare me life's battles so they tried to make me a >> >> lady but battles loom anyway and you'd better figure out how to fight >> >> or run. >> >> >> >> On Jul 24, 7:15 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Heh Rigsy in my opinion and experiances as a small man, the brute >> >> > strengh of a male is easy enought to counter if you quick. >> >> >> >> > My dad well, he is not great man nor a great dad, but I have taken on >> >> > board some of what he tried to instill in me, namely 'Lee you are >> >> > small, and so there is no shame in picking up half a brick, don't let >> >> > yourself get beaten' and the ever so wise 'When you are sorround by a >> >> > group always hit firts and always the biggest one of them' >> >> >> >> > What I shall pass down to my children though is the safer 'run, run >> >> > boy, run like fuck' >> >> >> >> > On 24 July, 12:22, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > There are a multitude of ways to "kill" someone off besides with a >> >> > > weapon or fists but that, perhaps, is a topic for another thread. I >> >> > > doubt I could ever phsically kill someone but maybe I have simply/ >> >> > > narrowly escaped those life or death situations. Regarding the >> >> > > "death" >> >> > > of relationships, there seems to be a long period of self- >> >> > > justification followed by a more rational appraisal- and the same >> >> > > might also be said in the casting aside of old core >> >> > > beliefs/behaviors >> >> > > and taking up new ones. Physically, I am not equipped to counter >> >> > > the >> >> > > brute strength of a male but I see that women are now engaging in >> >> > > martial arts and carrying pink stun guns and pistols plus entering >> >> > > the >> >> > > military in combat roles. No one runs off to hide in a convent! :-) >> >> > > At >> >> > > any rate, there are legal and social actions available to even >> >> > > scores >> >> > > or protect oneself/family. The sad thing is that they are sometimes >> >> > > necessary which further disappoints ones view of the human race. >> >> > > Afterall, you have little control over the motives or mindsets of >> >> > > other people. >> >> >> >> > > On Jul 24, 4:37 am, "[email protected]" >> >> > > <[email protected]> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> >> >> > > > So you are saying that you have noticed that the divorce rates >> >> > > > are >> >> > > > less now than say 20 years ago? >> >> >> >> > > > As to violence I am most assuredly a man, and as has already been >> >> > > > discussed I abhour violence, yet it is a handy tool to use, and I >> >> > > > have >> >> > > > not been slow in using it when I must. Like any tool though, I am >> >> > > > of >> >> > > > the opinion that the right tool for the right job makes life >> >> > > > soooo >> >> > > > much easyer. >> >> >> >> > > > On 23 July, 18:43, "Lorraine Belge" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > > > I disagree, having been a marriage counselor for multiple >> >> > > > > years, I have seen people attempt (successfully) to pull together >> >> > > > > and be >> >> > > > > forced, yes forced because they don't have the numerous choices >> >> > > > > made >> >> > > > > possible by money, to see other alternatives. As a result you >> >> > > > > have the old >> >> > > > > fashioned marriage where people realize that they need to make >> >> > > > > the best of >> >> > > > > what they think is a bad situation and all of a sudden it gets >> >> > > > > better. >> >> > > > > Violence is the result of inherent tendencies to solve >> >> > > > > difficulties by >> >> > > > > physical means, frequently a man's first choice, altho sometimes >> >> > > > > a women >> >> > > > > will do it also, But men are physical in their formulations of >> >> > > > > situations >> >> > > > > and respond in like kind. they are by nature the hunter and women >> >> > > > > the >> >> > > > > gatherer. But civilization has brought with it numerous choices, >> >> > > > > including >> >> > > > > counselors, pastors, books, self help, internet, etc. even >> >> > > > > friends and >> >> > > > > blogs, etc. hope this does not sound negative, only my point of >> >> > > > > view from >> >> > > > > experience. Many good wishes and kindness go your way. Namaste >> >> >> >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > > > > From: deripsni<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> > > > > To: "Minds Eye"<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:42 AM >> >> > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: killers >> >> >> >> > > > > I guess staying in bad marriages is even more likely to cause >> >> > > > > violence >> >> > > > > than divorces. Occurances of violence dominate the news >> >> > > > > unfortunately. >> >> > > > > Its a bad bad world out there it seems. I live in a place where >> >> > > > > there >> >> > > > > is not much violence, no gang problems, no racial problems to >> >> > > > > speak >> >> > > > > of. I guess I am just blessed not to live in an area of high >> >> > > > > crime but >> >> > > > > I cringe when I watch CNN. >> >> >> >> > > > > On Jul 23, 8:49 am, Don Johnson >> >> > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> > > > > > I heard divorces were happening less often. People are >> >> > > > > > staying in bad >> >> > > > > > relationships so they won't be alone during the recession. >> >> >> >> > > > > > dj >> >> >> >> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, >> >> > > > > > deripsni<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yes, I presume one has to be alive to commit an act of >> >> > > > > > > violence ;-] >> >> > > > > > > But there must be more instigating factors these days with >> >> > > > > > > kids >> >> > > > > > > growing up watching carnage on TV, masses of people stuck >> >> > > > > > > in traffic >> >> > > > > > > jams, workers losing their jobs, higher divorce rates, etc. >> >> > > > > > > Denser >> >> > > > > > > poplulation areas have to increase the likelihood of >> >> > > > > > > violence. >> >> >> >> > > > > > > By the way, your cat did not commit an act of violence, it >> >> > > > > > > was only >> >> > > > > > > reacting to an instinctive urge. >> >> >> >> > > > > > > On Jul 23, 7:36 am, >> >> > > > > > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" >> >> > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > >> I'm pretty sure that it is simply life that 'breeds' >> >> > > > > > >> violence. I mean >> >> > > > > > >> I have never seem anything dead attack anything else. >> >> > > > > > >> Fictional >> >> > > > > > >> zombies not-withstanding. >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> On a personal note, my 13 year old had his first taste of >> >> > > > > > >> death the >> >> > > > > > >> other day. That'st right a cat(the female one) got a hold >> >> > > > > > >> of one of >> >> > > > > > >> his hamsters. Hamster is no more, and the cat has >> >> > > > > > >> subsequently been >> >> > > > > > >> renamed 'murderer' by my young boy child. >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> On 20 July, 13:10, deripsni >> >> > > > > > >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > Maybe knowledge breeds violence? In the unlikely case >> >> > > > > > >> > that a man has >> >> > > > > > >> > not been introduced to religion or politics, would he >> >> > > > > > >> > still have the >> >> > > > > > >> > same propensity to kill as the modern man? Maybe, but >> >> > > > > > >> > the reasons >> >> > > > > > >> > would be fewer, say for perceived territorial >> >> > > > > > >> > infringement, or >> >> > > > > > >> > protection of family and food. >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > I am sure that early man, before being saturated with >> >> > > > > > >> > media, politics, >> >> > > > > > >> > religious dogma, and over-population, was a much more >> >> > > > > > >> > peaceful animal. >> >> > > > > > >> > A person's conscience seems to dictate activity ranges, >> >> > > > > > >> > and today's >> >> > > > > > >> > man has had his conscience mezmerized by >> >> > > > > > >> > over-information, over- >> >> > > > > > >> > breeding, over-indulgence, etc. Unfortuately I cannot >> >> > > > > > >> > forsee a >> >> > > > > > >> > reversal in this trend short of some global catastrophe >> >> > > > > > >> > that wipes out >> >> > > > > > >> > a large number of the human animals that inhabit this >> >> > > > > > >> > rock. >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > Many can speculate as to what breeds violence but, in my >> >> > > > > > >> > opinion, a >> >> > > > > > >> > healthy conscience precludes any unsolicited violent >> >> > > > > > >> > activity. I think >> >> > > > > > >> > a good question to ask is 'what causes the deterioration >> >> > > > > > >> > of a healthy >> >> > > > > > >> > conscience?'. Unfortunately, I think there are too many >> >> > > > > > >> > answers to >> >> > > > > > >> > that question. >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > On Jul 18, 6:42 pm, Alan Wostenberg >> >> > > > > > >> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > A common belief today is that religion breeds >> >> > > > > > >> > > violence. Isn't this >> >> > > > > > >> > > like saying politics is violent? I read the below >> >> > > > > > >> > > today, and it gave >> >> > > > > > >> > > me food for thought, particularly that last sentence: >> >> >> >> > > > > > >> > > "Some kill because their faiths specifically command >> >> > > > > > >> > > them to do so; >> >> > > > > > >> > > some kill though their faiths explicitly forbid them >> >> > > > > > >> > > to do so; and >> >> > > > > > >> > > some kill because they have no faith and hence believe >> >> > > > > > >> > > all things are >> >> > > > > > >> > > permitted to them. Polytheists, monotheists, and >> >> > > > > > >> > > atheists kill. Men >> >> > > > > > >> > > kill for their gods, or for their God, or because >> >> > > > > > >> > > there is no God and >> >> > > > > > >> > > human destiny must be shaped by gigantic exertions of >> >> > > > > > >> > > human will. They >> >> > > > > > >> > > kill out of pursuit of universal truths, and out of >> >> > > > > > >> > > fidelity to tribal >> >> > > > > > >> > > allegiances; for faith, blood and soil, empire, >> >> > > > > > >> > > national greatness, >> >> > > > > > >> > > "socialist utopia", capitalism, and "democratization". >> >> > > > > > >> > > Men always seek >> >> > > > > > >> > > gods in who's name they may perform great deeds or >> >> > > > > > >> > > commit unspeakable >> >> > > > > > >> > > atrocity, even if those gods are not gods but "tribal >> >> > > > > > >> > > honor", or >> >> > > > > > >> > > "genetic imperatives" or "social ideals" or "human >> >> > > > > > >> > > destiny" or >> >> > > > > > >> > > "liberal democracy". Then again men also kill on >> >> > > > > > >> > > account of money, >> >> > > > > > >> > > land, love, pride, hatred, envy or ambition. ... The >> >> > > > > > >> > > truth is that >> >> > > > > > >> > > religion and irreligion are cultural variables, but >> >> > > > > > >> > > killing is a human >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
