There are a multitude of ways to "kill" someone off besides with a weapon or fists but that, perhaps, is a topic for another thread. I doubt I could ever phsically kill someone but maybe I have simply/ narrowly escaped those life or death situations. Regarding the "death" of relationships, there seems to be a long period of self- justification followed by a more rational appraisal- and the same might also be said in the casting aside of old core beliefs/behaviors and taking up new ones. Physically, I am not equipped to counter the brute strength of a male but I see that women are now engaging in martial arts and carrying pink stun guns and pistols plus entering the military in combat roles. No one runs off to hide in a convent! :-) At any rate, there are legal and social actions available to even scores or protect oneself/family. The sad thing is that they are sometimes necessary which further disappoints ones view of the human race. Afterall, you have little control over the motives or mindsets of other people.
On Jul 24, 4:37�am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > So you are saying that you have noticed that the divorce rates are > less now than say 20 years ago? > > As to violence I am most assuredly a man, and as has already been > discussed I abhour violence, yet it is a handy tool to use, and I have > not been slow in using it when I must. �Like any tool though, I am of > the opinion that the right tool for the right job makes life soooo > much easyer. > > On 23 July, 18:43, "Lorraine Belge" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I disagree, having been a marriage counselor for multiple years, I have > > seen people attempt (successfully) to pull together and be forced, yes > > forced because they don't have the numerous choices made possible by money, > > to see other alternatives. �As a result you have the old fashioned marriage > > where people realize that they need to make the best of what they think is > > a bad situation and all of a sudden it gets better. �Violence is the result > > of inherent tendencies to solve difficulties by physical means, frequently > > a man's first choice, altho sometimes a women will do it also, But men are > > physical in their formulations of situations and respond in like kind. > > �they are by nature the hunter and women the gatherer. �But civilization > > has brought with it numerous choices, including counselors, pastors, books, > > self help, internet, etc. �even friends and blogs, etc. �hope this does not > > sound negative, only my point of view from experience. � Many good wishes > > and kindness go your way. �Namaste > > > � ----- Original Message ----- > > � From: deripsni<mailto:[email protected]> > > � To: "Minds Eye"<mailto:[email protected]> > > � Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:42 AM > > � Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: killers > > > � I guess staying in bad marriages is even more likely to cause violence > > � than divorces. Occurances of violence dominate the news unfortunately. > > � Its a bad bad world out there it seems. I live in a place where there > > � is not much violence, no gang problems, no racial problems to speak > > � of. I guess I am just blessed not to live in an area of high crime but > > � I cringe when I watch CNN. > > > � On Jul 23, 8:49 am, Don Johnson > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > � > I heard divorces were happening less often. People are staying in bad > > � > relationships so they won't be alone during the recession. > > > � > dj > > > � > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM, > > deripsni<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > � > > Yes, I presume one has to be alive to commit an act of violence ;-] > > � > > But there must be more instigating factors these days with kids > > � > > growing up watching carnage on TV, masses of people stuck in traffic > > � > > jams, workers losing their jobs, higher divorce rates, etc. Denser > > � > > poplulation areas have to increase the likelihood of violence. > > > � > > By the way, your cat did not commit an act of violence, it was only > > � > > reacting to an instinctive urge. > > > � > > On Jul 23, 7:36 am, > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > � > > wrote: > > � > >> I'm pretty sure that it is simply life that 'breeds' violence. I mean > > � > >> I have never seem anything dead attack anything else. Fictional > > � > >> zombies not-withstanding. > > > � > >> On a personal note, my 13 year old had his first taste of death the > > � > >> other day. That'st right a cat(the female one) got a hold of one of > > � > >> his hamsters. Hamster is no more, and the cat has subsequently been > > � > >> renamed 'murderer' by my young boy child. > > > � > >> On 20 July, 13:10, deripsni > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > � > >> > Maybe knowledge breeds violence? In the unlikely case that a man > > has > > � > >> > not been introduced to religion or politics, would he still have > > the > > � > >> > same propensity to kill as the modern man? Maybe, but the reasons > > � > >> > would be fewer, say for perceived territorial infringement, or > > � > >> > protection of family and food. > > > � > >> > I am sure that early man, before being saturated with media, > > politics, > > � > >> > religious dogma, and over-population, was a much more peaceful > > animal. > > � > >> > A person's conscience seems to dictate activity ranges, and today's > > � > >> > man has had his conscience mezmerized by over-information, over- > > � > >> > breeding, over-indulgence, etc. Unfortuately I cannot forsee a > > � > >> > reversal in this trend short of some global catastrophe that wipes > > out > > � > >> > a large number of the human animals that inhabit this rock. > > > � > >> > Many can speculate as to what breeds violence but, in my opinion, a > > � > >> > healthy conscience precludes any unsolicited violent activity. I > > think > > � > >> > a good question to ask is 'what causes the deterioration of a > > healthy > > � > >> > conscience?'. Unfortunately, I think there are too many answers to > > � > >> > that question. > > > � > >> > On Jul 18, 6:42 pm, Alan Wostenberg > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > � > >> > > A common belief today is that religion breeds violence. Isn't > > this > > � > >> > > like saying politics is violent? I read the below today, and it > > gave > > � > >> > > me food for thought, particularly that last sentence: > > > � > >> > > "Some kill because their faiths specifically command them to do > > so; > > � > >> > > some kill though their faiths explicitly forbid them to do so; > > and > > � > >> > > some kill because they have no faith and hence believe all > > things are > > � > >> > > permitted to them. Polytheists, monotheists, and atheists kill. > > Men > > � > >> > > kill for their gods, or for their God, or because there is no > > God and > > � > >> > > human destiny must be shaped by gigantic exertions of human > > will. They > > � > >> > > kill out of pursuit of universal truths, and out of fidelity to > > tribal > > � > >> > > allegiances; for faith, blood and soil, empire, national > > greatness, > > � > >> > > "socialist utopia", capitalism, and "democratization". Men > > always seek > > � > >> > > gods in who's name they may perform great deeds or commit > > unspeakable > > � > >> > > atrocity, even if those gods are not gods but "tribal honor", or > > � > >> > > "genetic imperatives" or "social ideals" or "human destiny" or > > � > >> > > "liberal democracy". Then again men also kill on account of > > money, > > � > >> > > land, love, pride, hatred, envy or ambition. ... The truth is > > that > > � > >> > > religion and irreligion are cultural variables, but killing is a > > human > > � > >> > > constant"(*) > > > � > >> > > (*) David Bently Hart, _atheist delusion_ pg > > 12http://www.librarything.com/work/book/47946437-Hidequotedtext- > > > � > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > � > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > � > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
