Would also add professors to this list as well as cliques.
On Jul 24, 7:15�am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Heh Rigsy in my opinion and experiances as a small man, the brute
> strengh of a male is easy enought to counter if you quick.
>
> My dad well, he is not great man nor a great dad, but I have taken on
> board some of what he tried to instill in me, namely 'Lee you are
> small, and so there is no shame in picking up half a brick, don't let
> yourself get beaten' �and the ever so wise 'When you are sorround by a
> group always hit firts and always the biggest one of them'
>
> What I shall pass down to my children though is the safer 'run, run
> boy, run like fuck'
>
> On 24 July, 12:22, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > There are a multitude of ways to "kill" someone off besides with a
> > weapon or fists but that, perhaps, is a topic for another thread. I
> > doubt I could ever phsically kill someone but maybe I have simply/
> > narrowly escaped those life or death situations. Regarding the "death"
> > of relationships, there seems to be a long period of self-
> > justification followed by a more rational appraisal- and the same
> > might also be said in the casting aside of old core beliefs/behaviors
> > and taking up new ones. Physically, I am not equipped to counter the
> > brute strength of a male but I see that women are now engaging in
> > martial arts and carrying pink stun guns and pistols plus entering the
> > military in combat roles. No one runs off to hide in a convent! :-) At
> > any rate, there are legal and social actions available to even scores
> > or protect oneself/family. The sad thing is that they are sometimes
> > necessary which further disappoints ones view of the human race.
> > Afterall, you have little control over the motives or mindsets of
> > other people.
>
> > On Jul 24, 4:37 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > So you are saying that you have noticed that the divorce rates are
> > > less now than say 20 years ago?
>
> > > As to violence I am most assuredly a man, and as has already been
> > > discussed I abhour violence, yet it is a handy tool to use, and I have
> > > not been slow in using it when I must. Like any tool though, I am of
> > > the opinion that the right tool for the right job makes life soooo
> > > much easyer.
>
> > > On 23 July, 18:43, "Lorraine Belge" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I disagree, having been a marriage counselor for multiple years, I have
> > > > seen people attempt (successfully) to pull together and be forced, yes
> > > > forced because they don't have the numerous choices made possible by
> > > > money, to see other alternatives. As a result you have the old
> > > > fashioned marriage where people realize that they need to make the best
> > > > of what they think is a bad situation and all of a sudden it gets
> > > > better. Violence is the result of inherent tendencies to solve
> > > > difficulties by physical means, frequently a man's first choice, altho
> > > > sometimes a women will do it also, But men are physical in their
> > > > formulations of situations and respond in like kind. they are by nature
> > > > the hunter and women the gatherer. But civilization has brought with it
> > > > numerous choices, including counselors, pastors, books, self help,
> > > > internet, etc. even friends and blogs, etc. hope this does not sound
> > > > negative, only my point of view from experience. Many good wishes and
> > > > kindness go your way. Namaste
>
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: deripsni<mailto:[email protected]>
> > > > To: "Minds Eye"<mailto:[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:42 AM
> > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: killers
>
> > > > I guess staying in bad marriages is even more likely to cause violence
> > > > than divorces. Occurances of violence dominate the news unfortunately.
> > > > Its a bad bad world out there it seems. I live in a place where there
> > > > is not much violence, no gang problems, no racial problems to speak
> > > > of. I guess I am just blessed not to live in an area of high crime but
> > > > I cringe when I watch CNN.
>
> > > > On Jul 23, 8:49 am, Don Johnson
> > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > I heard divorces were happening less often. People are staying in bad
> > > > > relationships so they won't be alone during the recession.
>
> > > > > dj
>
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:03 AM,
> > > > > deripsni<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yes, I presume one has to be alive to commit an act of violence ;-]
> > > > > > But there must be more instigating factors these days with kids
> > > > > > growing up watching carnage on TV, masses of people stuck in traffic
> > > > > > jams, workers losing their jobs, higher divorce rates, etc. Denser
> > > > > > poplulation areas have to increase the likelihood of violence.
>
> > > > > > By the way, your cat did not commit an act of violence, it was only
> > > > > > reacting to an instinctive urge.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 23, 7:36 am,
> > > > > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
> > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> I'm pretty sure that it is simply life that 'breeds' violence. I
> > > > > >> mean
> > > > > >> I have never seem anything dead attack anything else. Fictional
> > > > > >> zombies not-withstanding.
>
> > > > > >> On a personal note, my 13 year old had his first taste of death the
> > > > > >> other day. That'st right a cat(the female one) got a hold of one of
> > > > > >> his hamsters. Hamster is no more, and the cat has subsequently been
> > > > > >> renamed 'murderer' by my young boy child.
>
> > > > > >> On 20 July, 13:10, deripsni
> > > > > >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > Maybe knowledge breeds violence? In the unlikely case that a man
> > > > > >> > has
> > > > > >> > not been introduced to religion or politics, would he still have
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > same propensity to kill as the modern man? Maybe, but the reasons
> > > > > >> > would be fewer, say for perceived territorial infringement, or
> > > > > >> > protection of family and food.
>
> > > > > >> > I am sure that early man, before being saturated with media,
> > > > > >> > politics,
> > > > > >> > religious dogma, and over-population, was a much more peaceful
> > > > > >> > animal.
> > > > > >> > A person's conscience seems to dictate activity ranges, and
> > > > > >> > today's
> > > > > >> > man has had his conscience mezmerized by over-information, over-
> > > > > >> > breeding, over-indulgence, etc. Unfortuately I cannot forsee a
> > > > > >> > reversal in this trend short of some global catastrophe that
> > > > > >> > wipes out
> > > > > >> > a large number of the human animals that inhabit this rock.
>
> > > > > >> > Many can speculate as to what breeds violence but, in my
> > > > > >> > opinion, a
> > > > > >> > healthy conscience precludes any unsolicited violent activity. I
> > > > > >> > think
> > > > > >> > a good question to ask is 'what causes the deterioration of a
> > > > > >> > healthy
> > > > > >> > conscience?'. Unfortunately, I think there are too many answers
> > > > > >> > to
> > > > > >> > that question.
>
> > > > > >> > On Jul 18, 6:42 pm, Alan Wostenberg
> > > > > >> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > A common belief today is that religion breeds violence. Isn't
> > > > > >> > > this
> > > > > >> > > like saying politics is violent? I read the below today, and
> > > > > >> > > it gave
> > > > > >> > > me food for thought, particularly that last sentence:
>
> > > > > >> > > "Some kill because their faiths specifically command them to
> > > > > >> > > do so;
> > > > > >> > > some kill though their faiths explicitly forbid them to do so;
> > > > > >> > > and
> > > > > >> > > some kill because they have no faith and hence believe all
> > > > > >> > > things are
> > > > > >> > > permitted to them. Polytheists, monotheists, and atheists
> > > > > >> > > kill. Men
> > > > > >> > > kill for their gods, or for their God, or because there is no
> > > > > >> > > God and
> > > > > >> > > human destiny must be shaped by gigantic exertions of human
> > > > > >> > > will. They
> > > > > >> > > kill out of pursuit of universal truths, and out of fidelity
> > > > > >> > > to tribal
> > > > > >> > > allegiances; for faith, blood and soil, empire, national
> > > > > >> > > greatness,
> > > > > >> > > "socialist utopia", capitalism, and "democratization". Men
> > > > > >> > > always seek
> > > > > >> > > gods in who's name they may perform great deeds or commit
> > > > > >> > > unspeakable
> > > > > >> > > atrocity, even if those gods are not gods but "tribal honor",
> > > > > >> > > or
> > > > > >> > > "genetic imperatives" or "social ideals" or "human destiny" or
> > > > > >> > > "liberal democracy". Then again men also kill on account of
> > > > > >> > > money,
> > > > > >> > > land, love, pride, hatred, envy or ambition. ... The truth is
> > > > > >> > > that
> > > > > >> > > religion and irreligion are cultural variables, but killing is
> > > > > >> > > a human
> > > > > >> > > constant"(*)
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> > > > > >> > > (*) David Bently Hart, _atheist delusion_ pg
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