I'm not sure, at this point, the conversation is being derailed.  The
chief counsel for google entitled his discussion (link above) Seven
Ways to Ruin a Technological Revolution.  You don't have to get too
far into his talk to hear him say that one of those ways is to try to
"control" content.  Other than what has been granted copyright and
patent, his feeling is what is on the internet is public, as long as
what is being copied is not used as a commodity, or in other words,
sold in some other form.  His mantra - if google is doing it, it must
be legal.  And so we see the google search engines pulling up copy and
leading people there, free google blog software, encouraging everyone
to post at no cost.  We copy and paste things here from other sources
all the time as part of the discussion and while we might mention a
name, we certainly don't make a full legal footnote with copyright
info.  Why?  Because we are not reselling the info and making a
profit, so it is not necessary. We are siting information.  People are
learning at faster rates because of it.

One of the reasons that I began that blog was to expand the idea of my
friend (and originally Plato) that dialogue raises consciousness.  The
thought of expanding this from a IONS cafe talk group to a global
internet group was fascinating and I can honestly say that for me, in
this group, dialogue has expanded my thinking and network of people
that I trust and whose ideas I respect.  If we had to stop and
reference each idea with author, edition, page etc like we do for
published work that is copyrighted through the office of copyrights,
the immediacy of expression would be gone, the learning curve would
flatten, the groups would be to cumbersome to participate in.  I do
not think that this is what google intended when it developed its free
blogs or groups.

Advances in technology are becoming such that social networks can now
be linked, so that one post on twitter, facebook, a google blog and
countless other pages can have one source of input and appear on
multiple platforms.  We can even have a page that pulls RSS from
multiple other pages.  There is a freedom of information here that
means the same information gets to more people through multiple
internet sources.  It is a truly magnificient system, and unless
someone is making big bucks or winning the Pulitzer with one of my
poems, I want my words and ideas out there like that.  So, I think,
should everyone.  We give up control.  In return, we get freedom.

On Jul 24, 4:02 pm, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:
> I won't de-rail this thread any more with talk about copyright (feel free to
> start another if you have something to say). The moderators are talking
> about this over email.
>
> Ian
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