So, Molly, can we get back to the thread now? Can you please review my reply and respond?
Must be the eclipse affecting moods! PS: I don't really have any complaint but I was just curious about it. On Jul 22, 8:55 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > This is no secret, Orn, as you well know. When I began participating > in Minds Eye in 2007, I asked members directly for permission to > include these posts in the same discussion on this blog. After some > time of that, the admin told me that I no longer needed to to this as > it is a public forum and permission not necessary. FYI - posts from > several forums on the internet are included on this blog. I do not > make money on it and have not received complaints until now. It does > no harm, is not a secret, and I am told, is interesting and sometimes > helpful. > > But we have been through this before and I am not sure why you keep > bringing it up, especially when it disrupts a thread and has no > relation to it. As I said, if you (or anyone) care enough to email > me, I will be glad to discuss it with you further. For now, I break > no rules and am indeed following instruction from 2007. > > On Jul 22, 8:05 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Chris, in most instances of Molly starting a topic and ending with > > "What do you think?" here at Mind's Eye, it is directly associated > > with and copied from her personal webpage/blog: > > >http://cblegacy.blogspot.com/ > > > You can check the history here. This has been the case for years. > > Those of us who reply at Minds Eye have our responses echoed on her > > website with, as far as I can tell, no attribution to Mind's Eye at > > all. I have mentioned this in the past and so far am merely stating a > > personal opinion that I see it as deception. Others may not agree. > > > On Jul 22, 12:48 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Your words aren't clear to me, Orn, in response to Molly's post. Will you > > > clarify them for me? > > > > I see her post covering a topic, discussing several authors who have > > > written > > > about the topic, and linking to a Wikipedia (public web page) about one of > > > the authors. From what I can tell, your response seems to have zero > > > relevance to her post. > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, ornamentalmind > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Molly, I have mentioned this before. My words are clear. You accept > > > > them or you don't. > > > > > On Jul 22, 10:28 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > please explain. > > > > > > On Jul 22, 1:09 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I think that posting to a Google group (Mind's Eye) and then linking > > > > > > the discussion to a personal website, giving the impression it is > > > > > > the > > > > > > locus of attention, is a deceptive practice. > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 7:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Are we in control of ourselves, our lives, our families, our > > > > > > > worlds? > > > > > > > Or are we just aware and knowing what one can do if something > > > > > > > unpredictable happens? > > > > > > > There are many explanations for why we do what we do. For > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > Thomas Metzinger's new Book, The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the > > > > > > > Mind > > > > > > > and the Myth of the Self, seriously questions whether there is > > > > > > > even > > > > an > > > > > > > "I", let alone a "we." And Douglas Hofstadter's book, I Am a > > > > > > > Strange > > > > > > > Loop, contends that the "self" is a recursively self-referencing > > > > > > > memory loop. > > > > > > > > Hundreds of experiments by Benjamin Libet and others tend to > > > > > > > conclusively confirm that our brain prepares to execute our > > > > > > > decisions > > > > > > > before we are even aware that anything is being decided. It > > > > > > > alerts us > > > > > > > to our decisions only in time (a split second) for us to veto > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet, as well as > > > > > > > Benjamin > > > > > > > Libet's book, Mind Time, and Walter J. Freeman's book, How Brains > > > > Make > > > > > > > Up Their Minds. > > > > > > > > It is quite likely that we have no so-called "free will" other > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > veto power over our specific actions. Our free will may consist > > > > > > > instead of 1) being mindful about any ill-serving subliminal > > > > > > > intentions and tendencies that inform our actions so that we are > > > > > > > accordingly prepared to veto any action that they correspondingly > > > > > > > inform, and of 2) programming (or reprogramming) our subliminal > > > > > > > intentions to be more productive of the experiencing that we most > > > > > > > desire. > > > > > > > > Do we have the power to create our realities? 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