Your words aren't clear to me, Orn, in response to Molly's post. Will you
clarify them for me?

I see her post covering a topic, discussing several authors who have written
about the topic, and linking to a Wikipedia (public web page) about one of
the authors. From what I can tell, your response seems to have zero
relevance to her post.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Molly, I have mentioned this before. My words are clear. You accept
> them or you don't.
>
> On Jul 22, 10:28 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > please explain.
> >
> > On Jul 22, 1:09 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think that posting to a Google group (Mind's Eye) and then linking
> > > the discussion to a personal website, giving the impression it is the
> > > locus of attention, is a deceptive practice.
> >
> > > On Jul 22, 7:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Are we in control of ourselves, our lives, our families, our worlds?
> > > > Or are we just aware and knowing what one can do if something
> > > > unpredictable happens?
> > > > There are many explanations for why we do what we do.  For example,
> > > > Thomas Metzinger's new Book, The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind
> > > > and the Myth of the Self, seriously questions whether there is even
> an
> > > > "I", let alone a "we." And Douglas Hofstadter's book, I Am a Strange
> > > > Loop, contends that the "self" is a recursively self-referencing
> > > > memory loop.
> >
> > > > Hundreds of experiments by Benjamin Libet and others tend to
> > > > conclusively confirm that our brain prepares to execute our decisions
> > > > before we are even aware that anything is being decided. It alerts us
> > > > to our decisions only in time (a split second) for us to veto them.
> >
> > > > Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet, as well as Benjamin
> > > > Libet's book, Mind Time, and Walter J. Freeman's book, How Brains
> Make
> > > > Up Their Minds.
> >
> > > > It is quite likely that we have no so-called "free will" other than
> > > > veto power over our specific actions. Our free will may consist
> > > > instead of 1) being mindful about any ill-serving subliminal
> > > > intentions and tendencies that inform our actions so that we are
> > > > accordingly prepared to veto any action that they correspondingly
> > > > inform, and of 2) programming (or reprogramming) our subliminal
> > > > intentions to be more productive of the experiencing that we most
> > > > desire.
> >
> > > > Do we have the power to create our realities?  Are we in control?
> > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>  >
>

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