Molly,

I'm afraid it appears that whoever told you that you did not need permission
to reproduce Mind's Eye posts without specific permission from the actual
poster(s) has over-stepped their powers. See article 7 here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/googlegroups/terms_of_service3.html

The admins are discussing this at the moment, but I'd suggest holding back
from re-posting any more content until we're totally clear on the rules and
their implications. Craig is a lawyer, so confident we'll get to the bottom
of it.

Ian


2009/7/23 Molly Brogan <[email protected]>

>
> This is no secret, Orn, as you well know.  When I began participating
> in Minds Eye in 2007, I asked members directly for permission to
> include these posts in the same discussion on this blog.  After some
> time of that, the admin told me that I no longer needed to to this as
> it is a public forum and permission not necessary.  FYI - posts from
> several forums on the internet are included on this blog.  I do not
> make money on it and have not received complaints until now.  It does
> no harm, is not a secret, and I am told, is interesting and sometimes
> helpful.
>
> But we have been through this before and I am not sure why you keep
> bringing it up, especially when it disrupts a thread and has no
> relation to it.  As I said, if you (or anyone) care enough to email
> me, I will be glad to discuss it with you further.  For now, I break
> no rules and am indeed following instruction from 2007.
>
> On Jul 22, 8:05 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Chris, in most instances of Molly starting a topic and ending with
> > "What do you think?" here at Mind's Eye, it is directly associated
> > with and copied from her personal webpage/blog:
> >
> > http://cblegacy.blogspot.com/
> >
> > You can check the history here. This has been the case for years.
> > Those of us who reply at Minds Eye have our responses echoed on her
> > website with, as far as I can tell, no attribution to Mind's Eye at
> > all. I have mentioned this in the past and so far am merely stating a
> > personal opinion that I see it as deception. Others may not agree.
> >
> > On Jul 22, 12:48 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Your words aren't clear to me, Orn, in response to Molly's post. Will
> you
> > > clarify them for me?
> >
> > > I see her post covering a topic, discussing several authors who have
> written
> > > about the topic, and linking to a Wikipedia (public web page) about one
> of
> > > the authors. From what I can tell, your response seems to have zero
> > > relevance to her post.
> >
> > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, ornamentalmind <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > Molly, I have mentioned this before. My words are clear. You accept
> > > > them or you don't.
> >
> > > > On Jul 22, 10:28 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > please explain.
> >
> > > > > On Jul 22, 1:09 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > I think that posting to a Google group (Mind's Eye) and then
> linking
> > > > > > the discussion to a personal website, giving the impression it is
> the
> > > > > > locus of attention, is a deceptive practice.
> >
> > > > > > On Jul 22, 7:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Are we in control of ourselves, our lives, our families, our
> worlds?
> > > > > > > Or are we just aware and knowing what one can do if something
> > > > > > > unpredictable happens?
> > > > > > > There are many explanations for why we do what we do.  For
> example,
> > > > > > > Thomas Metzinger's new Book, The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the
> Mind
> > > > > > > and the Myth of the Self, seriously questions whether there is
> even
> > > > an
> > > > > > > "I", let alone a "we." And Douglas Hofstadter's book, I Am a
> Strange
> > > > > > > Loop, contends that the "self" is a recursively
> self-referencing
> > > > > > > memory loop.
> >
> > > > > > > Hundreds of experiments by Benjamin Libet and others tend to
> > > > > > > conclusively confirm that our brain prepares to execute our
> decisions
> > > > > > > before we are even aware that anything is being decided. It
> alerts us
> > > > > > > to our decisions only in time (a split second) for us to veto
> them.
> >
> > > > > > > Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet, as well as
> Benjamin
> > > > > > > Libet's book, Mind Time, and Walter J. Freeman's book, How
> Brains
> > > > Make
> > > > > > > Up Their Minds.
> >
> > > > > > > It is quite likely that we have no so-called "free will" other
> than
> > > > > > > veto power over our specific actions. Our free will may consist
> > > > > > > instead of 1) being mindful about any ill-serving subliminal
> > > > > > > intentions and tendencies that inform our actions so that we
> are
> > > > > > > accordingly prepared to veto any action that they
> correspondingly
> > > > > > > inform, and of 2) programming (or reprogramming) our subliminal
> > > > > > > intentions to be more productive of the experiencing that we
> most
> > > > > > > desire.
> >
> > > > > > > Do we have the power to create our realities?  Are we in
> control?
> > > > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
>

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