So the USA is straffing the fields of the poppy farmers or doling out
Viagra to tribal chiefs or bombing cilvilans. A very strange strategy/

On Jul 24, 4:59 pm, "SeeMaat;" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "And thank you .. " Vamadevananda
>
> "terrorists in their respective societies "
> true
> The problem is that attempts to eliminate the terrorists .. Complaint
> people have of vulnerable civilians
>
> SeeMaa
> On 24 يوليو, 22:18, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you, Seemaa !
>
> > All that is missing is people's jihad against the Talibans and the
> > terrorists in their respective societies, quite as every other society
> > is attempting to battle, contain or win over their astrays.
>
> > On Jul 24, 11:01 pm, "SeeMaat;" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Who knows the thing .. of course not the same as heard by the
> > > falsehoods with which people in fact do not know the truth ..!
>
> > >  people should know
>
> > > 1. Allah is God. The great majority of the non-Muslims I meet believe
> > > that Allah is a kind of personal name for some kind of small-"g" god,
> > > perhaps like Jupiter or Vulcan (gods of the Roman pantheon). I've even
> > > heard people refer contemptuously to the God of Islam as a "desert
> > > god," as if Judaism and Christianity originated in Yankee Stadium or
> > > something. The fact is that Allah is simply a compound word made from
> > > the Arabic words al (the) and lah, (god): the God. Monotheism -- the
> > > belief in a single, supreme, divine creator -- is the central and most
> > > important aspect of Islam. (And it's pronounced uh-LAH, not "Al, uh?")
> > > Even most English translations of the Qur'an I've seen do not
> > > translate the word. I believe it is really problematic and misleading
> > > not to translate such a key word for which there is an exact English
> > > *****alent.
>
> > > Along these lines, I've taken several Muslims to task for using the
> > > Arabic term for God when they're speaking in English: all it does it
> > > serve to confuse those for whom it's never been made clear that Allah
> > > is the same God worshipped by Jews and Christians. Muslims may differ
> > > on various points with Jews and Christians, but this is not one of
> > > them. You'd never know, though, from the way these groups act with
> > > each other much of the time, that they each hold dear the same belief
> > > in the God of Abraham, Moses, and of Jesus (for Christians and
> > > Muslims) and, for Muslims, of Muhammad. (Muslims accept all the
> > > prophets prior to Muhammad, including Jesus. More on Jesus shortly.)
>
> > > 2. The biggest sin is Islam is shirk: "associating partners with God."
> > > Shirk may be generally defined as polytheism, but also includes such
> > > things as the Christian concept of a triune God, or the worshipping of
> > > anything other than God, whether it's a human being, any natural/human
> > > creation or phenomenon. This tends to create quite a theological abyss
> > > between Muslims and polytheists, but also with Christians and certain
> > > other religious groups.
>
> > > You can imagine from this that expressions such as "Holy Mother of
> > > God!" give most observant Muslims the theological willies.
>
> > > 3. Muslims don't believe that Jesus was the son of God. As mentioned
> > > in #1, Muslims accept Jesus (in Arabic, "Isa") as a prophet, and an
> > > extremely important one at that. Following from #2, however, they do
> > > not accept the Christian belief that Jesus was the son of God
> > > (literally or ****phorically), although they do believe he is the son
> > > of Mary (in Arabic, "Maryam"). They further believe that at the time
> > > of the Crucifixion, another man was substituted for Jesus and made to
> > > look like him. Jesus was then raised up, "body and soul" by God into
> > > heaven.
>
> > > This is probably the most significant point of difference between
> > > Christians and Muslims. Some Christian theologians and clergy believe
> > > that Christians err by placing too much emphasis on Jesus and
> > > elevating him to God's level, but that's an argument for another time
> > > and place.
>
> > > 4. Muslims don't worship the Prophet Muhammad. This naturally follows
> > > from #2, but, I suspect because of the extreme emphasis on Jesus in
> > > much of Christian practice, many assume that Islam parallels this with
> > > Muhammad and Muslims. While the Prophet is considered by Muslims to
> > > have been the human being with the best character, he is still
> > > regarded as a human being, albeit an exceptional one. And while he is
> > > regarded as the final prophet of God, he is not the only one. He does
> > > not have divine status, although Muslims hold him in the highest
> > > regard and are expected and encouraged to try to emulate his habits
> > > and characteristics, those being of the highest quality.
>
> > > Muslims were for years incorrectly referred to as Mohammedans (spelled
> > > variously). This has generally become archaic, but you still see it
> > > now and then. It's actually profoundly offensive, since it implies
> > > shirk. (And while we're on it, it's Muslim, not Moslem, and Qur'an or
> > > Quran, not Koran.)
>
> > > 5. Translations of the Qur'an are not the Qur'an. It's well-known that
> > > something is always lost in translation. For those English speakers
> > > who don't ever expect to read the Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic, and
> > > whatever other languages in which its component ****s originally
> > > appeared, it seems to be accepted that translations of the Bible are
> > > all more or less equally valid, although one may have a preferred
> > > translation. But only the Qur'an in its original Arabic is considered
> > > to be the Qur'an; translations are treated with great respect but are
> > > simply not equally valid. Muslims believe that the Qur'an was revealed
> > > to Muhammad (who was completely illiterate) by God through the angel
> > > Jibril (Gabriel). Muhammad memorized the passages as they were
> > > revealed and recited them and shared them with his family and
> > > followers. Pre-Islamic Arab culture was predominantly oral, and others
> > > ultimately learned and memorized the entire Qur'an; it was not
> > > completely written down until after the Prophet's death.
>
> > > There have been many, many translations over the 1400-odd years since
> > > it was first written down; plenty of them are bad -- a few of them
> > > deliberately so in order to discredit Islam. Many poor translations
> > > offer little more than the bias and ignorance of the translator. But
> > > it's imperative to remember that any translation is at best an
> > > approximation, and it can be very dangerous to make sweeping judgments
> > > based on translated verses, especially in isolation.
>
> > > 6. Not all Muslims are Arabs; not all Arabs are Muslims. There seems
> > > to be widespread confusion about this. I suppose that, on some level,
> > > it's understandable: the Qur'an was revealed to an Arab speaker in
> > > Arabia, and two of Islam's holiest sites (the Holy Mosque in Makkah
> > > and the Prophet's Mosque in Madinah) are in what is now Saudi Arabia.
> > > But Arab people live in many countries, not just Saudi Arabia, and
> > > subscribe to many different religions, not just Islam: Christianity,
> > > Judaism, and Druze among them. The most populous Muslim country in the
> > > world is not even an Arab country: it's Indonesia. Only about twelve
> > > percent of the world's Muslims are Arabs. Muslims are nationals of
> > > many countries, from India to Sweden to Australia. Anyone who wants to
> > > can convert to Islam, and it's actually only a minority of Muslims who
> > > are also of Arab heritage. Also, not all Arab customs are Muslim. All
> > > Muslims do not speak Arabic, although prayers are to be said in
> > > Arabic, and Muslims are encouraged to learn to read Arabic so that
> > > they can understand the Qur'an. And while I would really, really like
> > > to believe this doesn't even need to be said, recent events have
> > > proved me wrong: not everyone with brown skin or wearing a turban is a
> > > Muslim or an Arab.
>
> > > 7. Culture is not religion. So much of the oppression and misogyny
> > > (female illiteracy, "honor" killing, female genital mutilation, forced
> > > marriages, physical abuse, etc.) we hear about in quasi- and pseudo-
> > > Islamic countries such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran stems from
> > > patriarchal cultural customs and baggage and not from Islam, although
> > > it's always "justified" sixty ways to Sunday with supposed religious
> > > dictates and self-serving interpretations of ******ure.
>
> > > If any of these countries actually thoroughly implemented Islam as
> > > intended and honored the spirit as well as the letter of the "law,"
> > > women, for example, would not only have far more rights and freedoms
> > > than they currently do in any of these countries, but the behavior of
> > > men and the actions of governments would have to change so radically
> > > that you would probably not recognize these countries at all. Islamic
> > > concepts and requirements are that different from how these countries
> > > currently operate.
>
> > > 8. Islam is not a monolith. It is a large, widespread, rich, and
> > > complex religion, with an extremely intricate and sometimes enigmatic
> > > ******ure, and an estimated 1.2 billion followers worldwide. There is
> > > overwhelming diversity within the Islamic world, beginning with the
> > > major Islamic subgroups: Sunni Muslims (accounting for around 85-90%
> > > of Muslims), Shi'ite Muslims, Sufis, Ismailis, and other small
> > > splinter groups. Within these groups there are schools of legal
> > > thought; there are four major ones within Sunni Islam alone. Muslims
> > > might be born into the religion or convert to it, and this contributes
> > > to the diversity within its adherents. It's absolutely essential not
> > > to see any one Muslim, genuine or otherwise, as representative of all
> > > Muslims.
>
> > > The very diversity of Muslims worldwide is one reason the annual
> > > pilgrimage (hajj) to Makkah, the birthplace of Islam, is so
> > > compelling: every year for over fourteen hundred years, millions of
> > > Muslims
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