Yeah I sorta agree with you.  We are largly free where it really
matters, in the head.  But do we really have ultimate control over
ourselves?

I can't help but think that if I don't eat then I die, so there is no
control there at all, I must eat or die, this is not my choice and so
I have no control over it.

On 27 July, 07:05, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am new here.  I like having control.  My last post did not show up
> so I looked at the guidelines (I really didn't think I would have to,
> after all  I am a wonderful human being.... sometimes)  and I found
> out that I am on "moderation" at the start (this is where I get to the
> control issue)
>
>    It is not a good feeling not being in control,  but we do have
> ultimate control over ourselves, barring an illness or mental chemical
> fiasco, and that might be the only control we may get that we can rely
> on.   People are controlling.  They often have good reasons.
> Sometimes they are just jerks,  but humans as a whole have
> demonstrated over and over that they prefer to control other human
> beings rather than let them do whatever they choose.  It is a fine
> line.  Obviously, control can be good for some causes and not for
> others.   It might depend on whether you have an Egalitarian or a
> "collective"  type philosophy, with the "good for most" beliefs.
> I really don't like that myself. I am an individualist.  But I also
> admit that some control is necessary.
>
>    We can hope that the "people in control"  have wisdom, fairness,
> and sound judgement.  When the hell has that ever happened in history?
> No, seriously, sometimes it happens.  Not often enough for me.  (I am
> not saying I have those qualities nor would know them if they ran me
> over)
>
> On Jul 26, 5:19 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We had Molly's wonderful post gone chaotic concerning control and
> > since then I thought of other aspects of control and being in control
> > and whether or not we are supposed to be in control.
> > I hear evangelists speak of turning your life over to God, letting the
> > Holy Spirit guide you.  I hear of following rules and regulations,
> > laws and dictum of governing bodies.  I ask myself, where is there any
> > room left for us to have any control?
> > This goes beyond the Molly post as being self and the awareness of
> > decision that was made prior.  Are we not mostly controlled beings?
> > Isn't control limited to our personal space and even then limited to
> > no one knowing about that space?  Isn't it true, what has been said,
> > that the only privacy we have is that which exists in our minds?  But
> > then again, when we talk about control, spiritual control, external
> > control isn't that also a matter that is questionable?- Hide quoted text -
>
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