As a scientific aside here, we do have three brains...each with a different function.
On Jul 30, 5:50 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Lee, we can choose to eat more or less, choose to fast or starve, we > can choose to sweat in the heat or hang out at the market freezer > section. But these are not pertinent to the control issue in the > context of this thread or my intended course of elicitation. > Primarily we are looking at personal space, our self, our being, modus > operandi, the whole concept of what we think and do and "Not" about > our bowel movements, sweat glands or the control of such. > Further to clarify, I did not say, as you put it, "some of us eat too > much", I did say "........we eat more than is necessary to > survive.......". This is not a definitive of what is "too much" > eating. Personally I wouldn't want to live on the survival diet but > just because I'm eating more than necessary for survival doesn't mean > I'm eating too much. > > On Jul 30, 4:02 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Well Slip, > > > You have said yourself that perhaps ome of us eat too much. So there > > must be an element of control there? If we can choose to eat less > > then that is a choice we make and thus we can control that. > > > You are correct though with the sweat thing, and altough it may appear > > I'm being pedantic, what you say really just backs up what I say. The > > issue is one of ultimate control of ourselves, if you cannot control > > when and how much you sweat then surly the control of yourself that > > you have is not ultimate huh? > > > Ohh I was in fact a veggie for a few years, only because when I meet > > the woman who would become my wife, she was one. > > > On 27 July, 11:56, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Would you actually go that far as to say the necessity of eating is a > > > control issue. You know you love your sausage grilled, butcher Lee, > > > and the other cuts as well. I don't recall you being a vegan. > > > But point is we love to eat, we choose to eat and fact is we eat more > > > than is necessary to survive which makes it a definite "choice" and > > > not a control. We might as well add in bodily functions as being a > > > control thing if we look at it your way. Is it a control issue > > > because I sweat when it is hot humid? > > > > On Jul 27, 5:43 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Yeah I sorta agree with you. We are largly free where it really > > > > matters, in the head. But do we really have ultimate control over > > > > ourselves? > > > > > I can't help but think that if I don't eat then I die, so there is no > > > > control there at all, I must eat or die, this is not my choice and so > > > > I have no control over it. > > > > > On 27 July, 07:05, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I am new here. I like having control. My last post did not show up > > > > > so I looked at the guidelines (I really didn't think I would have to, > > > > > after all I am a wonderful human being.... sometimes) and I found > > > > > out that I am on "moderation" at the start (this is where I get to the > > > > > control issue) > > > > > > It is not a good feeling not being in control, but we do have > > > > > ultimate control over ourselves, barring an illness or mental chemical > > > > > fiasco, and that might be the only control we may get that we can rely > > > > > on. People are controlling. They often have good reasons. > > > > > Sometimes they are just jerks, but humans as a whole have > > > > > demonstrated over and over that they prefer to control other human > > > > > beings rather than let them do whatever they choose. It is a fine > > > > > line. Obviously, control can be good for some causes and not for > > > > > others. It might depend on whether you have an Egalitarian or a > > > > > "collective" type philosophy, with the "good for most" beliefs. > > > > > I really don't like that myself. I am an individualist. But I also > > > > > admit that some control is necessary. > > > > > > We can hope that the "people in control" have wisdom, fairness, > > > > > and sound judgement. When the hell has that ever happened in history? > > > > > No, seriously, sometimes it happens. Not often enough for me. (I am > > > > > not saying I have those qualities nor would know them if they ran me > > > > > over) > > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:19 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > We had Molly's wonderful post gone chaotic concerning control and > > > > > > since then I thought of other aspects of control and being in > > > > > > control > > > > > > and whether or not we are supposed to be in control. > > > > > > I hear evangelists speak of turning your life over to God, letting > > > > > > the > > > > > > Holy Spirit guide you. I hear of following rules and regulations, > > > > > > laws and dictum of governing bodies. I ask myself, where is there > > > > > > any > > > > > > room left for us to have any control? > > > > > > This goes beyond the Molly post as being self and the awareness of > > > > > > decision that was made prior. Are we not mostly controlled beings? > > > > > > Isn't control limited to our personal space and even then limited to > > > > > > no one knowing about that space? Isn't it true, what has been said, > > > > > > that the only privacy we have is that which exists in our minds? > > > > > > But > > > > > > then again, when we talk about control, spiritual control, external > > > > > > control isn't that also a matter that is questionable?- Hide quoted > > > > > > text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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