Tinker- I am guessing you would not take it as an insult if I said
your are really "out there?"
Perhaps you would prefer I said "in there?"
You have some interesting ideas. Can I make some observations? I
hope you don't take it the wrong way, I am just being honest,
forthright and as clear as I am able. (that is my job....no , I do
not get paid) and I am not insulting you intentionally. (I can do
far better than this on a bad day)
Your "tone" that you present your ideas in has this "eau- de guru"
While this may be "you" I don't think it is the most effective way to
reach people, if indeed that is your goal.
This is just my opinion. Most of the people on this earth are not
"there" with you, they are down in the trenches cussing.
Perhaps this is not my place to even mention, sorry, but perhaps if
you explained your ideas in a more "street level" way? More
examples! I always liked examples in school. Those helped me the
most. I am a concept guy. Or analogies. I am a huge fan. Sure, they
are not as accurate, but they convey ideas to those who are far , far
away in a distant place from you.
Now that I have that over with, I will have to try and absorb
your writings before I ask questions.
On Jul 28, 6:57 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got my information from 30 years of seeking to understand what was
> wrong with the way of Society.
> I believe that the man Jesus and the man Buddha (plus others) saw a
> possibility for mankind to change the way of Society by overcoming
> some inherent fault in the way of Society. My seeking was to find that
> fault.
>
> I don't know about the sole purpose of the universe, but it is open to
> the Human Potential. As I said above, we may be the creators, or a
> seed of creators.
>
> Yes sir, going beyond established knowledge can be confusing because
> you have to define it anew as you go.
>
> The Human, our collective intelligence, could have created the
> universe in the same respect that our individual intelligence defines
> and creates on the Earth.
> This is all speculation and not of any concern to me. It 'could be'
> considering the power the Human will have if we were to correct the
> way of Society.
>
> Yes sir again. There ain't nothing or nobody that gives a shit about
> the Human on Earth. That is why I limit 'any god' to the Collective of
> Earth.
>
> The 100% would be Darwinism, yes I go beyond that.
>
> "Life, here and now", really should stand alone as the absolute of the
> existence of the Human. The follow up of that was simply my answer to
> spiritualist who try to deny Life's significance.
>
> YES! The "God" relative to earth is a very simple yin/yang force.
> We can work with the math.
> My theory can be found at the web site on my profile.
>
> An open mind with out reason is an empty head :-)
>
> peace & Love
>
> On Jul 28, 1:29 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 6:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hey BB,
>
> > > It's what I choose to think. It's a working model.
> > > Yes the millions of galaxies are there for us, and most likely even
> > > created by us.
>
> > Where do you get your information? Just curious. And the sole
> > purpose of the enourmous universe is for us?....to what?
>
> > >That is, would have been created by the evolution of
>
> > > the intelligence with which the Human leads Life on Earth.
>
> > Humans create galaxies? Are you talking real ones or the movie
> > types? You are a very confusing person, has anyone ever told you
> > that?
>
> > > The
> > > alternative would be that we were seeded by the intelligence that is
> > > responsible for the creation of the universe.
>
> > I can live with that. But this "intelligence" has some very strange
> > ways of doing things, almost like it could not care less about us.
>
> > > I'm 100% with you on evolution.
>
> > It doesn't sound that 100% to me. There are "mitigating factors" that
> > you have added.
>
> > > One for sure truth is "Life, here and now".
>
> > OK. Perhaps that needs a little follow-up to make sense?
>
> > >For any who would argue
> > > the fact, I would only think it appropriate to the argument that they
> > > not argue from "Life here and now". So it stands as fact by default of
> > > rebuttal.
>
> > That was not the convincing argument I had hoped for. In fact I
> > cannot make heads or tails out of it, sorry.
>
> > > One does not have a personal relationship with a force. One can come
> > > to understand the workings of a force, and I do have that
>
> > I do like this part here. My view of any god is that it is like
> > electricity. Electricity does not care about you. You don't form a
> > relationship with electricity. God is simply all the energy in the
> > universe. You can use it, possibly understand it , measure it, test
> > it, but it is simply an independent force that follows it's own laws
> > and patterns. It does not care about outcomes, it only performs the
> > math. Not a cozy personal caring god that most people want.
>
> > > understanding of the working model I referred to above.
> > > I call it the "'direction' of Society" and will be very happy to
> > > answer any questions that you have.
>
> > I don't even know where to start with that. I am sure you have
> > summarized your theory somewhere, maybe you could refer that to me.
> > Save you all that typing.
>
> > > Thank you very much for your response. I would be very happy to
> > > continue discussion.
> > > An open mind that can venture beyond one's 'personal belief
> > > structure' (personal religion) is required to escape the merry-go-
> > > round.
>
> > As I said in another group "when open minded people get out of a
> > chair, their brain falls out" (I appreciate open minded within
> > reason, I am a stickler for reason)
>
> > > peace & Love
>
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>
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