Thank you, BB47.

I Like the way you work.

The tone is me. I am a very direct, no frills person. I have not got a
clue and am not interested in learning what is 'politically correct'.
Too much propaganda amongst that information.
I have to lead to where I am (in there, out there?). New knowledge
goes through a cycle before being understood and accepted. I am going
forward the only way I know.

I'm speaking of some thing that is totally abstract to common
'Society' knowledge.
It can not be shown at "street level", I come as close as I can. To
bridge the gap, one has to ask questions, I can't force feed the
knowledge.

I thank you again for input and consideration.

peace & Love

On Jul 29, 10:21 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tinker-  I am guessing you would not take it as an insult if I said
> your are really "out there?"
> Perhaps you would prefer I said "in there?"
>
> You have some interesting ideas.  Can I make some observations?  I
> hope you don't take it the wrong way, I am just being honest,
> forthright and as clear as I am able.  (that is my job....no , I do
> not get paid)  and I am not insulting you intentionally.  (I can do
> far better than this on a bad day)
>
> Your "tone" that you present your ideas in has this "eau- de guru"
> While this may be "you" I don't think it is the most effective way to
> reach people, if indeed that is your goal.
> This is just my opinion.   Most of the people on this earth are not
> "there" with you, they are down in the trenches cussing.
>
>    Perhaps this is not my place to even mention, sorry, but perhaps if
> you explained your ideas in a more "street level" way?   More
> examples!  I always liked examples in school.  Those helped me the
> most. I am a concept guy.  Or analogies.  I am a huge fan.  Sure, they
> are not as accurate, but they convey ideas to those who are far , far
> away in a distant place from you.
>
>     Now that I have that over with,  I will have to try and absorb
> your writings before I ask questions.
>
> On Jul 28, 6:57 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I got my information from 30 years of seeking to understand what was
> > wrong with the way of Society.
> > I believe that the man Jesus and the man Buddha (plus others) saw a
> > possibility for mankind to change the way of Society by overcoming
> > some inherent fault in the way of Society. My seeking was to find that
> > fault.
>
> > I don't know about the sole purpose of the universe, but it is open to
> > the Human Potential. As I said above, we may be the creators, or a
> > seed of creators.
>
> > Yes sir, going beyond established knowledge can be confusing because
> > you have to define it anew as you go.
>
> > The Human, our collective intelligence, could have created the
> > universe in the same respect that our individual intelligence defines
> > and creates on the Earth.
> > This is all speculation and not of any concern to me. It 'could be'
> > considering the power the Human will have if we were to correct the
> > way of Society.
>
> > Yes sir again. There ain't nothing or nobody that gives a shit about
> > the Human on Earth. That is why I limit 'any god' to the Collective of
> > Earth.
>
> > The 100% would be Darwinism, yes I go beyond that.
>
> > "Life, here and now", really should stand alone as the absolute of the
> > existence of the Human. The follow up of that was simply my answer to
> > spiritualist who try to deny Life's significance.
>
> > YES! The "God" relative to earth is a very simple yin/yang force.
> > We can work with the math.
> > My theory can be found at the web site on my profile.
>
> > An open mind with out reason is an empty head :-)
>
> > peace & Love
>
> > On Jul 28, 1:29 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 27, 6:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey BB,
>
> > > > It's what I choose to think. It's a working model.
> > > > Yes the millions of galaxies are there for us, and most likely even
> > > > created by us.
>
> > > Where do you get your information?  Just curious.  And the sole
> > > purpose of the enourmous universe is for us?....to what?
>
> > >  >That is, would have been created by the evolution of
>
> > > > the intelligence with which the Human leads Life on Earth.
>
> > > Humans create galaxies?  Are you talking real ones or the movie
> > > types?    You are a very confusing person, has anyone ever told you
> > > that?
>
> > > > The
> > > > alternative would be that we were seeded by the intelligence that is
> > > > responsible for the creation of the universe.
>
> > > I can live with that.  But this "intelligence" has some very strange
> > > ways of doing things, almost like it could not care less about us.
>
> > > > I'm 100% with you on evolution.
>
> > > It doesn't sound that 100% to me.  There are "mitigating factors" that
> > > you have added.
>
> > > > One for sure truth is "Life, here and now".
>
> > > OK.   Perhaps that needs a little follow-up to make sense?
>
> > >  >For any who would argue
> > > > the fact, I would only think it appropriate to the argument that they
> > > > not argue from "Life here and now". So it stands as fact by default of
> > > > rebuttal.
>
> > > That was not the convincing argument I had hoped for.  In fact I
> > > cannot make heads or tails out of it, sorry.
>
> > > > One does not have a personal relationship with a force. One can come
> > > > to understand the workings of a force, and I do have that
>
> > > I do like this part here.  My view of any god is that it is like
> > > electricity.  Electricity does not care about you.  You don't form a
> > > relationship with electricity.  God is simply all the energy in the
> > > universe.  You can use it, possibly understand it ,  measure it, test
> > > it,  but it is simply an independent force that follows it's own laws
> > > and patterns.  It does not care about outcomes, it only performs the
> > > math.  Not a cozy personal caring god that most people want.
>
> > > > understanding of the working model I referred to above.
> > > > I call it the "'direction' of Society" and will be very happy to
> > > > answer any questions that you have.
>
> > > I don't even know where to start with that.  I am sure you have
> > > summarized your theory somewhere, maybe you could refer that to me.
> > > Save you all that typing.
>
> > > > Thank you very much for your response. I would be very happy to
> > > > continue discussion.
> > > > An open mind that can venture beyond one's 'personal belief
> > > > structure' (personal religion) is required to escape the merry-go-
> > > > round.
>
> > > As I said in another group "when open minded people get out of a
> > > chair, their brain falls out"    (I appreciate open minded within
> > > reason,  I am a stickler for reason)
>
> > > > peace & Love
>
> > > Yeah baby!- Hide quoted text -
>
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