Slip, to begin with, the God I'm referring to has been defined as a
simple force like electricity.
I have stated that, that force is grounded to the physical. To
influence that force is to simply release that ground. Like I told you
a long time ago, it is a simple mechanical switch. There is no supreme
being to beseech and beg.

Establishing a point of common understanding will flip the switch.

peace & Love

On Aug 3, 6:06 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tinker really, do you realize what you are saying?
> with...............
>
> (my version of influencing God to solve the problems of mankind)
>
> Are you serious?   Like there hasn't been any effort in the history of
> mankind to beg, beseech, appeal to,  ask, call upon, entreat, implore,
> petition, plead or supplicate in an effort to "influence" "God" (a
> questionable idea)??.
>
> Your "Version"??
>
> I'm going to write MSNBC's Brian Williams to see if he is interested
> in airing your version on how to "Ifluence God".
>
> I'm positive that the entire world is interested in finding out or
> discovering the "How" to go about this.
>
> On Aug 3, 4:19 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes Sir.
> > Whether you call it "entering the Kingdom", "transcending the base
> > physical existence" or "changing the 'direction' of Society" (my
> > version of influencing God to solve the problems of mankind), it is a
> > really magnificent goal.
> > The thing is, that our civilization has evolved to the point where we
> > CAN do it.
>
> > Dear BB,
> > Your pitch for 'here and now' is wonderful!
> > It is not possible to teach the people of the world to cooperate with
> > adherence to a doctrine because of the barriers of language and
> > culture.
>
> > "A universal symbol for our common link, the Feeling, CAN cross the
> > barriers of language and culture to establish a point of common
> > understanding for Unity to begin."
>
> > Please do give me the chance to say that a hundred or two more times
> > if that's what it takes for it to sink in to your mind here and
> > now :-)
>
> > peace & Love
>
> > On Aug 2, 10:35 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 2, 4:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > My friend BB, I know the web site is crap.
> > > > One thing that you need to understand is that this is not about me and/
> > > > or my beliefs. It is a simple plan to create a point of common
> > > > understanding. The simple plan completed (a monumental task) will
> > > > will  establish that point of common understanding, and "unite the
> > > > world".
>
> > > That is one giant goal you have there my friend.  My philosophy has
> > > been magnitudes lower scaled.  I simply "try to have an effect" on the
> > > people I interact with, one person at a time.   Even that one is
> > > tough, but I admire you "thinking BIG!"
>
> > > > I really do know what I have to do. I have to get help. I have devoted
> > > > eight years of my Life to trying to get that help. The fear of the
> > > > unknown is 'the' thing that I have to overcome. It has to do with the
> > > > cycle of breakthrough for 'new knowledge'.
> > > > All we need to do is 'keep trying' to reach an understanding. If we
> > > > can do that then we can consider how to proceed.
>
> > > > Waaaaa! :-)
>
> > > OK
>
> > > > 1. I'm the most honest person you've ever known in your Life.
>
> > > > 2. In eight years I've tried hundreds of different approaches and I am
> > > > going forward with the knowledge gained from those experiences. I have
> > > > progressed to 'here and now' with you :-)
>
> > > > 3. Again, it's not about my ideas, it's a simple plan.
>
> > > > 4. You have nothing to compare, to see the changes I've gone through.
>
> > > > 5. I'm not a salesman type, I'm a mechanic. I know that, that's why
> > > > I'm seeking help.
>
> > > OK
>
> > > > "You ask for it, but you don't say what we should do, or how we go
> > > > about it."= BB47
> > > > Pay attention 'here and now'!
>
> > > That is a start.  How about we elaborate on the here and now a
> > > little?  I can pitch it!   It can't hurt.  (right, look at my results
> > > so far)
> > > Here is a couple opening lines, let me see what you think....
>
> > > "People of the world, there is only NOW.  This fleeting nanosecond of
> > > NOW is the only thing there is.  You are not even alive if you are not
> > > there, right in the center of it, flowing right with it, like riding a
> > > wave.   You are lost if you are not in the now, for that wave would
> > > pass you right by.  You are not really alive.  You are wasting your
> > > life by being anywhere else.  And I can see it in your eyes, people,
> > > you are not in the here and now.
> > > You cannot live in the past, and you cannot live in the future.  You
> > > must FOCUS on the NOW. "
>
> > > (you have to admit it is sort of catchy.  I can punch it up!  (I am
> > > not so good writing in the now, I am more of an editor, I had to go
> > > back and change a couple things and add a point..... I have a lot to
> > > learn about this here and now, I told you, but I LIKE IT)
>
> > > Anyway, does that help or hurt our cause?
> > > I really think the phrase by itself is not enough.  Do you have
> > > anything against adding some "fire" to the message?

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