Sorry.  Didn't mean to cut them off.  I've got a habit of cutting off
extraneous past posts which don't respond to the most recent request.
I suppose I should cut some slack in that though.  Thanks for
repeating.

I can agree with all your points including Francis' addendum but for
one consideration -- which is not a complete impediment but one which
must be dealt with.  I'm sure all of us at one time or another have
had occasion to contact a government agency for one reason or another
and have been rebuffed by the bureaucratic, CYA, pass the buck, I
don't know, my supervisor's not here, I'll hang up if you don't calm
down firewall.   This has been, in my 69 years experience, the most
common, most persistent, most irritating complaint about anything
government.

I'd have to see some progress in removing that mind set from the lower-
level bureaucracy that we the people get to deal with before I'd feel
comfortable trusting that much of my life to it.

On Aug 5, 7:44 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> I outlined some in the original post, but you chopped them off!
>
> 1. Socialized medicine.
> 2. Socialized education through a degree, trade, or technical certification.
> 3. Socialized energy
> 4. Socialized farming at the community level (see Japan's city farms)
> 5. Socialized infrastructure which includes all basic utilities
>
> All of this supporting a free market encouraging manufacturing, artisanship,
> culture, and technological innovation. All welfare type programs as we know
> them would be gone (food stamps, AFDC, WIC, SS Disability), replaced by work
> programs within the social infrastructure. I'd tie in paid work programs
> which began at the high school level, and structure competition to spur
> innovation and job creation.
>
> The ideas are complex, and would take a while to write out...perhaps a
> different thread.

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