Is that by law, as how it should be, or is it how it is ? And, why ?
On Aug 7, 10:03 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can see your point in theory but in practice I'm afraid the more
> local or parochial government gets the more petty, corrupt and
> dysfunctional it becomes.
>
> On Aug 6, 8:49 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I think that particular problem is resolved by removed by adhering to our
> > Tenth Amendment, and keeping administration of these services local. The
> > farther the power seat gets from the people, the less it cares.
>
> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Sorry. Didn't mean to cut them off. I've got a habit of cutting off
> > > extraneous past posts which don't respond to the most recent request.
> > > I suppose I should cut some slack in that though. Thanks for
> > > repeating.
>
> > > I can agree with all your points including Francis' addendum but for
> > > one consideration -- which is not a complete impediment but one which
> > > must be dealt with. I'm sure all of us at one time or another have
> > > had occasion to contact a government agency for one reason or another
> > > and have been rebuffed by the bureaucratic, CYA, pass the buck, I
> > > don't know, my supervisor's not here, I'll hang up if you don't calm
> > > down firewall. This has been, in my 69 years experience, the most
> > > common, most persistent, most irritating complaint about anything
> > > government.
>
> > > I'd have to see some progress in removing that mind set from the lower-
> > > level bureaucracy that we the people get to deal with before I'd feel
> > > comfortable trusting that much of my life to it.
>
> > > On Aug 5, 7:44 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I outlined some in the original post, but you chopped them off!
>
> > > > 1. Socialized medicine.
> > > > 2. Socialized education through a degree, trade, or technical
> > > certification.
> > > > 3. Socialized energy
> > > > 4. Socialized farming at the community level (see Japan's city farms)
> > > > 5. Socialized infrastructure which includes all basic utilities
>
> > > > All of this supporting a free market encouraging manufacturing,
> > > artisanship,
> > > > culture, and technological innovation. All welfare type programs as we
> > > know
> > > > them would be gone (food stamps, AFDC, WIC, SS Disability), replaced by
> > > work
> > > > programs within the social infrastructure. I'd tie in paid work programs
> > > > which began at the high school level, and structure competition to spur
> > > > innovation and job creation.
>
> > > > The ideas are complex, and would take a while to write out...perhaps a
> > > > different thread.- Hide quoted text -
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