Show me where I have not answered a question. "BLitTeR,“The Symbol” means "acknowledge the Feeling", it can be made "Common Knowledge".
That's a complete sentence, do you not understand English? Do you have a question or or you just ranting against that which has stirred the 'fear' to a frenzy? peace & Love > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:51:34 -0700 > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of Life? > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > I have a question. At the end of many of your posts you state that you > would be "happy to answer any questions", yet the person you are > responding to has already asked you questions that you have failed to > answer. If you truly would be happy to answer any question, why not do > it in the post where you have been asked a question? > > From what I have seen so far, your "sermon" is like this big, > beautiful refrigerator. It's got all the bells and whistles, but when > the door is opened there is nothing inside to chew on. You may say > things like "BLitTeR,“The Symbol” means acknowledge the Feeling" it > can be made "Common Knowledge", but until you explain what this means, > you are losing people to help you with your mission, not gaining > them. > > In other words, your "Feeling" is turning people off, rather than on. > Why not take some time to gather your thoughts and try to explain how > you plan to accomplish your mission, rather than chanting the catch > phrases that offer very little substance to feed our hungry > appetites? > > On Aug 10, 11:25 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > I understand that point of view. And I confess that the view I presented > > was presented facetiously. > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > 1. What I believe about religion is personal opinion > > > > 2. I have stated a number of times, my idea is of a mechanical nature. It > > does involve "the ah ha moment fantastic connection in the head" that many > > people attribute to 'spiritual' in nature. > > > > undetermined??? BLitTeR - acknowledge the Feeling, "Teach the World a > > Word" That's the whole show my friend. Trying to understand how it will > > work would take a dedicated effort. > > > > 3. I believe it will establish Unity(period) > > define Unity? 'mankind working together for the good of all' > > > > Here's a little blurb that gives it some substance; > > > > Three Powers Unite > > “Common > > Knowledge”, the power of two or more persons with like mind. > > > > “The > > Feeling”, has propelled the great ones of history to their goals. > > > > “The > > Symbol”, unites nations and cultures. > > > > BLitTeR,“The Symbol”means , "acknowledge the Feeling"it can be made > > "Common Knowledge" > > I'll be happy to answer any questions. > > peace & Love > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:32:16 -0400 > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of Life? > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > > I disagree; noting a trend in argument type is not ad hominem, nor is your > > assumption. Both may be fallacies, but not of that type. I note all the > > time that Archytas is fond of long diatribes which strike one as > > pseudo-fictional. This is not an ad hominem attack. In our goal of > > maintaining open discourse, let's not swing so far in sensitivity that we > > shut down discourse entirely. Many types of discourse exist that may not be > > Pollyanna in nature, but they are not the blatant attacks that we ban for > > the purpose of purifying communication here. > > > > Tinker, we have spent some months dancing around your idea without ever > > truly hearing what it is. Are you actually capable of articulating it, or > > is this a niggling feeling that you have, a beginning of an idea that you > > have yet to actually flesh out, and that you hope to fully formulate here? > > I hope to see a clear and direct answer to this question, as it is a clear > > and direct question. I'm truly interested in knowing, given the time that > > you've invested in participation, without ever actually spelling it out. I > > think I can roughly summarize the philosophical positions of most of the > > long term posters on this board, who have done a fair job of stating > > exactly what it is that they believe. So far, this is what I gather from > > you (and please feel free to correct or clarify as appropriate): > > > > 1. You believe that religion is unnecessary or oppressive. > > 2. You believe that humanity can unite worldwide in some sort of spiritual > > fashion around an as yet undetermined symbol. > > > > 3. You believe that this unity will serve to replace religion in > > enlightenment and philosophy. > > ...and that's about it. Care to expound? > > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > How so?, was a question about the statement made, followed by an > > explanation of the question. That is what I don't understand, that's why I > > asked the question, can you answer it? > > If you would ask a question about a statement that I made, I would answer > > it, not through up a smoke screen as you have. > > > > I did confess that, "Two separate posts.", did not compute. If you cannot > > or don't want to help me to understand that, that's OK. > > > > It does not matter what you are relaying about the person, it is "about the > > person", not an idea of the person. Considering your confessed contempt for > > me it's not likely that you would be doing anything other than attacking. > > Sir, you are guilty of ad hominem, again. > > > > (and as we know the best defense is a good offense, in that vein, I am also > > guilty)(I apologize) > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:41:02 -0700 > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of Life? > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Perhaps you can explain what you don't understand about it. You > > > simply don't comprehend and I'd like to help you if you could just let > > > me know what you don't understand about the statement. > > > > > Relaying what is typical of a person is not ad hominen. > > > > > On Aug 10, 7:57 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:41 -0700 > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of > > > > > Life? > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Out of context Tinker. > > > > > > How so? It is a reference to non-medical healing which you seem to > > > > support in debunking the practitioner. > > > > > > > Very typical of you. > > > > > > Would that be ad hominem, sir? It does appear that you are talking > > > > about a person with no reference to any idea. > > > > > > > Two separate posts. > > > > > > I have no idea what you mean here :-( > > > > > > > Final answer, NO. > > > > > > Was there another question and answer that I missed? And the expletive > > > > NO, does not change what I see to be directly related. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > On Aug 10, 5:19 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > "A patient's anxiety brings about a headache, the relaxation caused > > > > > > by simply "knowing" there is help available alleviates the > > > > > > headache, and the patient thinks the practitioner did a wonderful > > > > > > job." - Slip > > > > > > > > Wouldn't that apply to taking an aspirin for a headache also? > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:26:12 -0700 > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science > > > > > > > of Life? > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > In the case of chiropractic applied kinesiology, who other than > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > practitioner can provide the care? The intent is not to send the > > > > > > > patient home to perform chiropractic adjustments, self messaging > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > The idea of healing through motor skill is at best wishful > > > > > > > thinking at > > > > > > > this point in time. I think the mind takes the bulk of the > > > > > > > credit in > > > > > > > any situation outside medicinal application. In any placebo > > > > > > > study the > > > > > > > validity of the condition would have to be positively ascertained > > > > > > > before we could attribute the change to the alternative. If the > > > > > > > mind > > > > > > > could effect change in the cure than it could effect change in the > > > > > > > condition, as in bringing on the condition. A patient's anxiety > > > > > > > brings about a headache, the relaxation caused by simply "knowing" > > > > > > > there is help available alleviates the headache, and the patient > > > > > > > thinks the practitioner did a wonderful job. To correlate muscle > > > > > > > coordination with spirit and free will in a healing format is > > > > > > > just as > > > > > > > hazy as any other spiritual healing process. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 10, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Again, you seem to be expecting the practitioner to do the > > > > > > > > healing for > > > > > > > > you (as you think the aspirin will.) A good practitioner or > > > > > > > > doctor > > > > > > > > will teach you how to maintain peak health. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 11:25 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Philogirl, > > > > > > > > > Kinesiology is the scientific approach to analysis and > > > > > > > > > healing so I > > > > > > > > > think you might be referring to Applied Kinesiology which is > > > > > > > > > basically > > > > > > > > > a chiropractic application. There is a distinct difference. > > > > > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology has recieved much criticism and is > > > > > > > > > considered a > > > > > > > > > pseudoscience. There is hardly any evidence to support the > > > > > > > > > practice > > > > > > > > > as being effective. > > > > > > > > > > > Studies have shown that reliance weighs heavily on the > > > > > > > > > practitioner > > > > > > > > > and results are simply a game of chance, there is no real > > > > > > > > > proof to > > > > > > > > > support it as a viable alternative. > > > > > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology is interdependent with other treatments > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > include nutritional, manipulative adjusting and > > > > > > > > > neurolymphatic and > > > > > > > > > vascular messaging. > > > > > > > > > > > Having experience with chiropractic treatments I would have > > > > > > > > > to say > > > > > > > > > attributing better health to the treatments is questionable > > > > > > > > > considering the lengthy term of the treatments and all the > > > > > > > > > variable > > > > > > > > > that occur during that time. No one goes to the chiropractor > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > comes out healed, it takes a considerable amount of time. > > > > > > > > > However, on > > > > > > > > > the other hand if I have a headache I can take an aspirin for > > > > > > > > > immediate relief. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 5:29 pm, philogirl > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What about kinesiology? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:15 pm, Chris Jenkins > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's easy enough to test your theory, Molly. I can inject > > > > > > > > > > > you with the > > > > > > > > > > > chemicals which WILL alter your mood, and you can attempt > > > > > > > > > > > to combat them by > > > > > > > > > > > willing your mood to change the chemicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can the mood exist outside of the chemicals? The mood > > > > > > > > > > > IS the chemicals. > > > > > > > > > > > Neurochemistry is not some dark and unexplored science. > > > > > > > > > > > There is much > > > > > > > > > > > research available. Here's a good start > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?call=bv.View..ShowTOC&rid=b... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While chemical balance is one part of our "health," > > > > > > > > > > > > claiming that it > > > > > > > > > > > > the entire picture is a very narrow focus. 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