We had our American Eskimo Spitz for 20 years and had to finally put her down because she couldn't walk anymore. But truth is the good food and exercise contributed to her longevity. Vet visits were were simply for the shots and checkup. I dumped insurance about ten years ago and feel I've saved thousands without it. Doctors are making a fortune on insurance companies.
On Aug 11, 6:00 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > yes you are, we should all be so lucky. The last pet I owned, every > time I went to the vet, they asked if I had insurance for the dog. It > was an ironic day when I found myself telling my vet that I was a > christian scientist (well, I understood the tenets anyway) to get them > to stop insisting on expensive medical treatments for my dog. He > lived a good life without them. > > On Aug 11, 6:18 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've noticed that when I had insurance there was always something > > wrong with me that required lots of tests. When I go in and say I > > don't have insurance the doctor addresses the specific issue and > > dispenses the appropriate treatment. I'm lucky to have a doctor that > > I trust and can rely on for honesty. > > > On Aug 11, 8:12 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I agree, that when it comes to health and healing, humans are > > > emotionally vulnerable and unless also wise, can be subject to > > > unethical doctors or practitioners that prey on a persons need for > > > someone to "heal them." The would is full of them, and I have seen > > > several medical doctors in my time that would qualify. As I have > > > mentioned before, with the state of health care here in the US, > > > Gerentolog has been reduced to the constant testing and doctor visits > > > for our elderly loved ones, each with several doctors and they spend > > > their final days filled with doctor appointments and visits to the > > > hospital for testing. Plenty of Medicare dollars to be made. > > > > On Aug 11, 4:38 am, philogirl <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Slip Disc, > > > > I agree with your thoughts that 'to correlate muscle coordination with > > > > spirit and free will in a healing format is just as hazy as any other > > > > spiritual healing process'. > > > > My experience has been that the person giving the treatment can > > > > influence the treatment in a neg/pos way by their approach or the > > > > words they use when giving the 'treatment'. The thinking they have is > > > > that the 'body never lies'. They say that if you have a problem your > > > > body will respond regardless of what you even say. > > > > I feel this whole area of 'expertise' is one that can provide a large > > > > scope of emotional manipulation and dare it be said, abuse of a > > > > person's emotional life as a result. > > > > > Am very interested in other people's thoughts on this one! > > > > > philogirl > > > > > On Aug 10, 6:26 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > In the case of chiropractic applied kinesiology, who other than the > > > > > practitioner can provide the care? The intent is not to send the > > > > > patient home to perform chiropractic adjustments, self messaging etc. > > > > > The idea of healing through motor skill is at best wishful thinking at > > > > > this point in time. I think the mind takes the bulk of the credit in > > > > > any situation outside medicinal application. In any placebo study the > > > > > validity of the condition would have to be positively ascertained > > > > > before we could attribute the change to the alternative. If the mind > > > > > could effect change in the cure than it could effect change in the > > > > > condition, as in bringing on the condition. A patient's anxiety > > > > > brings about a headache, the relaxation caused by simply "knowing" > > > > > there is help available alleviates the headache, and the patient > > > > > thinks the practitioner did a wonderful job. To correlate muscle > > > > > coordination with spirit and free will in a healing format is just as > > > > > hazy as any other spiritual healing process. > > > > > > On Aug 10, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Again, you seem to be expecting the practitioner to do the healing > > > > > > for > > > > > > you (as you think the aspirin will.) A good practitioner or doctor > > > > > > will teach you how to maintain peak health. > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 11:25 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Philogirl, > > > > > > > Kinesiology is the scientific approach to analysis and healing so > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > think you might be referring to Applied Kinesiology which is > > > > > > > basically > > > > > > > a chiropractic application. There is a distinct difference. > > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology has recieved much criticism and is considered > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > pseudoscience. There is hardly any evidence to support the > > > > > > > practice > > > > > > > as being effective. > > > > > > > > Studies have shown that reliance weighs heavily on the > > > > > > > practitioner > > > > > > > and results are simply a game of chance, there is no real proof to > > > > > > > support it as a viable alternative. > > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology is interdependent with other treatments which > > > > > > > include nutritional, manipulative adjusting and neurolymphatic and > > > > > > > vascular messaging. > > > > > > > > Having experience with chiropractic treatments I would have to say > > > > > > > attributing better health to the treatments is questionable > > > > > > > considering the lengthy term of the treatments and all the > > > > > > > variable > > > > > > > that occur during that time. No one goes to the chiropractor and > > > > > > > comes out healed, it takes a considerable amount of time. > > > > > > > However, on > > > > > > > the other hand if I have a headache I can take an aspirin for > > > > > > > immediate relief. > > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 5:29 pm, philogirl > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > What about kinesiology? > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:15 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It's easy enough to test your theory, Molly. I can inject you > > > > > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > chemicals which WILL alter your mood, and you can attempt to > > > > > > > > > combat them by > > > > > > > > > willing your mood to change the chemicals. > > > > > > > > > > How can the mood exist outside of the chemicals? The mood IS > > > > > > > > > the chemicals. > > > > > > > > > Neurochemistry is not some dark and unexplored science. There > > > > > > > > > is much > > > > > > > > > research available. Here's a good start > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?call=bv.View..ShowTOC&rid=b... > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > While chemical balance is one part of our "health," > > > > > > > > > > claiming that it > > > > > > > > > > the entire picture is a very narrow focus. You seem to be > > > > > > > > > > presenting > > > > > > > > > > the premise that our chemical balance produces our mood. I > > > > > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > > > > that our mood effects our chemical balance. Quackery and > > > > > > > > > > juju works > > > > > > > > > > both ways, and simply can't get away with it anymore may > > > > > > > > > > also apply to > > > > > > > > > > an outdated medical model. The paradigm of science itself > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > changing, although mainstream is slow to catch up. > > > > > > > > > > > Orn, you did mean posters and not posers, I take it. Very > > > > > > > > > > funny. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 4:32 pm, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The body can heal itself; this is not a revelation, it > > > > > > > > > > > does this > > > > > > > > > > > continuously, every day, with the production of new > > > > > > > > > > > cells. The operating > > > > > > > > > > > factor and scope for variability, and there is only one, > > > > > > > > > > > is the chemical > > > > > > > > > > > balance of the body in question. Mood is part of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why try to dress this up with quackery and juju? You > > > > > > > > > > > simply can't get > > > > > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > > > > with it any more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
