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peace & Love

> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:58:45 -0700
> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of Life?
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> LOL. You're funny!
> 
> On Aug 11, 3:58 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Show me where I have not answered a question.
> >
> > "BLitTeR,“The Symbol” means "acknowledge the Feeling", it can be made 
> > "Common Knowledge".
> >
> > That's a complete sentence, do you not understand English? Do you have a 
> > question or or you just ranting against that which has stirred the 'fear' 
> > to a frenzy?
> >
> > peace & Love
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:51:34 -0700
> > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of Life?
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > I have a question. At the end of many of your posts you state that you
> > > would be "happy to answer any questions", yet the person you are
> > > responding to has already asked you questions that you have failed to
> > > answer. If you truly would be happy to answer any question, why not do
> > > it in the post where you have been asked a question?
> >
> > > From what I have seen so far, your "sermon" is like this big,
> > > beautiful refrigerator. It's got all the bells and whistles, but when
> > > the door is opened there is nothing inside to chew on. You may say
> > > things like "BLitTeR,“The Symbol” means acknowledge the Feeling" it
> > > can be made "Common Knowledge", but until you explain what this means,
> > > you are losing people to help you with your mission, not gaining
> > > them.
> >
> > > In other words, your "Feeling" is turning people off, rather than on.
> > > Why not take some time to gather your thoughts and try to explain how
> > > you plan to accomplish your mission, rather than chanting the catch
> > > phrases that offer very little substance to feed our hungry
> > > appetites?
> >
> > > On Aug 10, 11:25 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I understand that point of view. And I confess that the view I 
> > > > presented was presented facetiously.
> >
> > > > Dear Chris,
> >
> > > > 1. What I believe about religion is personal opinion
> >
> > > > 2. I have stated a number of times, my idea is of a mechanical nature. 
> > > > It does involve "the ah ha moment fantastic connection in the head" 
> > > > that many people attribute to 'spiritual' in nature.
> >
> > > > undetermined???  BLitTeR - acknowledge the Feeling, "Teach the World a 
> > > > Word" That's the whole show my friend. Trying to understand how it will 
> > > > work would take a dedicated effort.
> >
> > > > 3. I believe it will establish Unity(period)
> > > > define Unity? 'mankind working together for the good of all'
> >
> > > > Here's a little blurb that gives it some substance;
> >
> > > > Three Powers Unite
> > > > “Common
> > > > Knowledge”, the power of two or more persons with like mind.
> >
> > > > “The
> > > > Feeling”, has propelled the great ones of history to their goals.
> >
> > > > “The
> > > > Symbol”, unites nations and cultures.
> >
> > > >  BLitTeR,“The Symbol”means , "acknowledge the Feeling"it can be made 
> > > > "Common Knowledge"
> > > > I'll be happy to answer any questions.
> > > > peace & Love
> >
> > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:32:16 -0400
> > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of Life?
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > > I disagree; noting a trend in argument type is not ad hominem, nor is 
> > > > your assumption. Both may be fallacies, but not of that type. I note 
> > > > all the time that Archytas is fond of long diatribes which strike one 
> > > > as pseudo-fictional. This is not an ad hominem attack. In our goal of 
> > > > maintaining open discourse, let's not swing so far in sensitivity that 
> > > > we shut down discourse entirely. Many types of discourse exist that may 
> > > > not be Pollyanna in nature, but they are not the blatant attacks that 
> > > > we ban for the purpose of purifying communication here.
> >
> > > > Tinker, we have spent some months dancing around your idea without ever 
> > > > truly hearing what it is. Are you actually capable of articulating it, 
> > > > or is this a niggling feeling that you have, a beginning of an idea 
> > > > that you have yet to actually flesh out, and that you hope to fully 
> > > > formulate here? I hope to see a clear and direct answer to this 
> > > > question, as it is a clear and direct question. I'm truly interested in 
> > > > knowing, given the time that you've invested in participation, without 
> > > > ever actually spelling it out. I think I can roughly summarize the 
> > > > philosophical positions of most of the long term posters on this board, 
> > > > who have done a fair job of stating exactly what it is that they 
> > > > believe. So far, this is what I gather from you (and please feel free 
> > > > to correct or clarify as appropriate):
> >
> > > > 1. You believe that religion is unnecessary or oppressive.
> > > > 2. You believe that humanity can unite worldwide in some sort of 
> > > > spiritual fashion around an as yet undetermined symbol.
> >
> > > > 3. You believe that this unity will serve to replace religion in 
> > > > enlightenment and philosophy.
> > > > ...and that's about it. Care to expound?
> >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > How so?, was a question about the statement made, followed by an 
> > > > explanation of the question. That is what I don't understand, that's 
> > > > why I asked the question, can you answer it?
> > > > If you would ask a question about a statement that I made, I would 
> > > > answer it, not through up a smoke screen as you have.
> >
> > > > I did confess that, "Two separate posts.", did not compute. If you 
> > > > cannot or don't want to help me to understand that, that's OK.
> >
> > > > It does not matter what you are relaying about the person, it is "about 
> > > > the person", not an idea of the person. Considering your confessed 
> > > > contempt for me it's not likely that you would be doing anything other 
> > > > than attacking. Sir, you are guilty of ad hominem, again.
> >
> > > > (and as we know the best defense is a good offense, in that vein, I am 
> > > > also guilty)(I apologize)
> >
> > > > peace & Love
> >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:41:02 -0700
> > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science of 
> > > > > Life?
> > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > > > Perhaps you can explain what you don't understand about it.  You
> > > > > simply don't comprehend and I'd like to help you if you could just let
> > > > > me know what you don't understand about the statement.
> >
> > > > > Relaying what is typical of a person is not ad hominen.
> >
> > > > > On Aug 10, 7:57 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:41 -0700
> > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The Non-Science 
> > > > > > > of Life?
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > > > > > Out of context Tinker.
> >
> > > > > > How so? It is a reference to non-medical healing which you seem to 
> > > > > > support in debunking the practitioner.
> >
> > > > > > > Very typical of you.
> >
> > > > > > Would that be ad hominem, sir? It does appear that you are talking 
> > > > > > about a person with no reference to any idea.
> >
> > > > > > > Two separate posts.
> >
> > > > > > I have no idea what you mean here :-(
> >
> > > > > > > Final answer, NO.
> >
> > > > > > Was there another question and answer that I missed? And the 
> > > > > > expletive NO, does not change what I see to be directly related.
> >
> > > > > > peace & Love
> >
> > > > > > > On Aug 10, 5:19 pm, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > "A patient's anxiety brings about a headache, the relaxation 
> > > > > > > > caused by simply "knowing" there is help available alleviates 
> > > > > > > > the headache, and the patient thinks the practitioner did a 
> > > > > > > > wonderful job." - Slip
> >
> > > > > > > > Wouldn't that apply to taking an aspirin for a headache also?
> >
> > > > > > > > peace & Love
> >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:26:12 -0700
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Non Medical Healing - The 
> > > > > > > > > Non-Science of Life?
> > > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> >
> > > > > > > > > In the case of chiropractic applied kinesiology, who other 
> > > > > > > > > than the
> > > > > > > > > practitioner can provide the care?  The intent is not to send 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > patient home to perform chiropractic adjustments, self 
> > > > > > > > > messaging etc.
> > > > > > > > > The idea of healing through motor skill is at best wishful 
> > > > > > > > > thinking at
> > > > > > > > > this point in time.  I think the mind takes the bulk of the 
> > > > > > > > > credit in
> > > > > > > > > any situation outside medicinal application.  In any placebo 
> > > > > > > > > study the
> > > > > > > > > validity of the condition would have to be positively 
> > > > > > > > > ascertained
> > > > > > > > > before we could attribute the change to the alternative.  If 
> > > > > > > > > the mind
> > > > > > > > > could effect change in the cure than it could effect change 
> > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > condition, as in bringing on the condition.  A patient's 
> > > > > > > > > anxiety
> > > > > > > > > brings about a headache, the relaxation caused by simply 
> > > > > > > > > "knowing"
> > > > > > > > > there is help available alleviates the headache, and the 
> > > > > > > > > patient
> > > > > > > > > thinks the practitioner did a wonderful job.  To correlate 
> > > > > > > > > muscle
> > > > > > > > > coordination with spirit and free will in a healing format is 
> > > > > > > > > just as
> > > > > > > > > hazy as any other spiritual healing process.
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 10, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Again, you seem to be expecting the practitioner to do the 
> > > > > > > > > > healing for
> > > > > > > > > > you (as you think the aspirin will.)  A good practitioner 
> > > > > > > > > > or doctor
> > > > > > > > > > will teach you how to maintain peak health.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 11:25 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Philogirl,
> > > > > > > > > > > Kinesiology is the scientific approach to analysis and 
> > > > > > > > > > > healing so I
> > > > > > > > > > > think you might be referring to Applied Kinesiology which 
> > > > > > > > > > > is basically
> > > > > > > > > > > a chiropractic application.  There is a distinct 
> > > > > > > > > > > difference.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology has recieved much criticism and is 
> > > > > > > > > > > considered a
> > > > > > > > > > > pseudoscience.  There is hardly any evidence to support 
> > > > > > > > > > > the practice
> > > > > > > > > > > as being effective.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Studies have shown that reliance weighs heavily on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > practitioner
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> >
> > ...
> >
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> >
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> > 

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