yes you are, we should all be so lucky. The last pet I owned, every time I went to the vet, they asked if I had insurance for the dog. It was an ironic day when I found myself telling my vet that I was a christian scientist (well, I understood the tenets anyway) to get them to stop insisting on expensive medical treatments for my dog. He lived a good life without them.
On Aug 11, 6:18 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > I've noticed that when I had insurance there was always something > wrong with me that required lots of tests. When I go in and say I > don't have insurance the doctor addresses the specific issue and > dispenses the appropriate treatment. I'm lucky to have a doctor that > I trust and can rely on for honesty. > > On Aug 11, 8:12 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree, that when it comes to health and healing, humans are > > emotionally vulnerable and unless also wise, can be subject to > > unethical doctors or practitioners that prey on a persons need for > > someone to "heal them." The would is full of them, and I have seen > > several medical doctors in my time that would qualify. As I have > > mentioned before, with the state of health care here in the US, > > Gerentolog has been reduced to the constant testing and doctor visits > > for our elderly loved ones, each with several doctors and they spend > > their final days filled with doctor appointments and visits to the > > hospital for testing. Plenty of Medicare dollars to be made. > > > On Aug 11, 4:38 am, philogirl <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Slip Disc, > > > I agree with your thoughts that 'to correlate muscle coordination with > > > spirit and free will in a healing format is just as hazy as any other > > > spiritual healing process'. > > > My experience has been that the person giving the treatment can > > > influence the treatment in a neg/pos way by their approach or the > > > words they use when giving the 'treatment'. The thinking they have is > > > that the 'body never lies'. They say that if you have a problem your > > > body will respond regardless of what you even say. > > > I feel this whole area of 'expertise' is one that can provide a large > > > scope of emotional manipulation and dare it be said, abuse of a > > > person's emotional life as a result. > > > > Am very interested in other people's thoughts on this one! > > > > philogirl > > > > On Aug 10, 6:26 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In the case of chiropractic applied kinesiology, who other than the > > > > practitioner can provide the care? The intent is not to send the > > > > patient home to perform chiropractic adjustments, self messaging etc. > > > > The idea of healing through motor skill is at best wishful thinking at > > > > this point in time. I think the mind takes the bulk of the credit in > > > > any situation outside medicinal application. In any placebo study the > > > > validity of the condition would have to be positively ascertained > > > > before we could attribute the change to the alternative. If the mind > > > > could effect change in the cure than it could effect change in the > > > > condition, as in bringing on the condition. A patient's anxiety > > > > brings about a headache, the relaxation caused by simply "knowing" > > > > there is help available alleviates the headache, and the patient > > > > thinks the practitioner did a wonderful job. To correlate muscle > > > > coordination with spirit and free will in a healing format is just as > > > > hazy as any other spiritual healing process. > > > > > On Aug 10, 6:37 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Again, you seem to be expecting the practitioner to do the healing for > > > > > you (as you think the aspirin will.) A good practitioner or doctor > > > > > will teach you how to maintain peak health. > > > > > > On Aug 9, 11:25 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Philogirl, > > > > > > Kinesiology is the scientific approach to analysis and healing so I > > > > > > think you might be referring to Applied Kinesiology which is > > > > > > basically > > > > > > a chiropractic application. There is a distinct difference. > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology has recieved much criticism and is considered a > > > > > > pseudoscience. There is hardly any evidence to support the practice > > > > > > as being effective. > > > > > > > Studies have shown that reliance weighs heavily on the practitioner > > > > > > and results are simply a game of chance, there is no real proof to > > > > > > support it as a viable alternative. > > > > > > > Applied Kinesiology is interdependent with other treatments which > > > > > > include nutritional, manipulative adjusting and neurolymphatic and > > > > > > vascular messaging. > > > > > > > Having experience with chiropractic treatments I would have to say > > > > > > attributing better health to the treatments is questionable > > > > > > considering the lengthy term of the treatments and all the variable > > > > > > that occur during that time. No one goes to the chiropractor and > > > > > > comes out healed, it takes a considerable amount of time. However, > > > > > > on > > > > > > the other hand if I have a headache I can take an aspirin for > > > > > > immediate relief. > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 5:29 pm, philogirl <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What about kinesiology? > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:15 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's easy enough to test your theory, Molly. I can inject you > > > > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > chemicals which WILL alter your mood, and you can attempt to > > > > > > > > combat them by > > > > > > > > willing your mood to change the chemicals. > > > > > > > > > How can the mood exist outside of the chemicals? The mood IS > > > > > > > > the chemicals. > > > > > > > > Neurochemistry is not some dark and unexplored science. There > > > > > > > > is much > > > > > > > > research available. Here's a good start > > > > > > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?call=bv.View..ShowTOC&rid=b... > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > While chemical balance is one part of our "health," claiming > > > > > > > > > that it > > > > > > > > > the entire picture is a very narrow focus. You seem to be > > > > > > > > > presenting > > > > > > > > > the premise that our chemical balance produces our mood. I > > > > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > > > that our mood effects our chemical balance. Quackery and > > > > > > > > > juju works > > > > > > > > > both ways, and simply can't get away with it anymore may also > > > > > > > > > apply to > > > > > > > > > an outdated medical model. The paradigm of science itself is > > > > > > > > > changing, although mainstream is slow to catch up. > > > > > > > > > > Orn, you did mean posters and not posers, I take it. Very > > > > > > > > > funny. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 4:32 pm, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The body can heal itself; this is not a revelation, it does > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > continuously, every day, with the production of new cells. > > > > > > > > > > The operating > > > > > > > > > > factor and scope for variability, and there is only one, is > > > > > > > > > > the chemical > > > > > > > > > > balance of the body in question. Mood is part of this. > > > > > > > > > > > Why try to dress this up with quackery and juju? You simply > > > > > > > > > > can't get > > > > > > > > > away > > > > > > > > > > with it any more. > > > > > > > > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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