Yes Vam, other peoples pain and suffering matter, but in my opinion,
this should not be felt as guilt, maybe compassion or empathy. In the
case of the doctor, it would be hard not to feel guilt if a mistake
caused suffering or death for the patient, so you are right to some
extent. Mistakes happen, and if it was because of sloppy work,
definately guilt should be felt, so you are right.

Protecting someone from rape should not be considered gratuitous
violence, but taking the necessary actions to prevent suffering in
another. This is a good thing, and if violence is required, it should
be classified as a reactionary tool for protection and not reflective
of breaking ones own personal code of behaviour.

Sometimes a lie is a good thing, since the truth often hurts. If this
is the case, the moral code of not intentionally hurting another
should override the code of not lying. These lies are referred to as
white lies, reflecting their lack of malice or "sin". For example, if
your wife asks you if you think she is fat, how do you answer?

Yes, there seems to be some exceptions to every rule, so thanks for
pointing out my generalization. I still feel though, that many people
feel guilt for the wrong reasons, so I suggest that one carefully
analyze a situation before they start loading this demoralizing
emotion onto their shoulders.

On Aug 13, 6:30 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> " In my opinion, guilt should ONLY be felt is one has broken their own
> moral code. Mistakes in judgement should not be cause for guilt.
> Unintentionally hurting another should not be cause for guilt. Not
> going to church should not be cause for guilt."
>
> D, there could be exceptions. I can break my moral code of non -
> violence, to prevent someone being raped. Or, I can tell a lie, to
> protect someone hiding in my house from being murdered. None of these
> may cause the least guilt in me. Similarly, a doctor may live with a
> deep sense of guilt everytime he passes by a suffering family,
> rendered miserable by the death of their protector and provider caused
> by his mistaken judgement.
>
> The code is one's own : abide by or break it as often as one would, if
> it affects no one. But consequences, resulting in happiness or
> suffering to another / others, matter.
>
> On Aug 13, 2:29 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In my opinion, guilt should ONLY be felt is one has broken their own
> > moral code. Mistakes in judgement should not be cause for guilt.
> > Unintentionally hurting another should not be cause for guilt. Not
> > going to church should not be cause for guilt. Breaking a law that one
> > does not think is right should not be cause for guilt.
>
> > If one develops a moral code, thus defining what they should and
> > should not do, and then proceeds to consciously do something that they
> > realize is against this code, the feelings of guilt should kick in.
> > They should not cause depression however, but should activate a strong
> > and determined motivation to repair any damage that may have been
> > done, and to reinforce the determination not to take this action ever
> > again.
>
> > Once this is done, the guilt should go away. Guilt can be a heavy
> > burden to carry, but carrying the guilt instilled by others is
> > emotional suicide. Set high moral goals, try to achieve them, and work
> > hard to enforce them if the code is broken. Other than that, be
> > HAPPY! ;-}
>
> > On Aug 12, 10:20 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Sometimes a human feels remorse guild or regret because of some
> > > actions they took in life (including myself) In my line of work as a
> > > psychiatrist I am confronted with these emotions of mankind on a every
> > > day basis. One of all is the ability of humans to feel guild, for
> > > there whole life, it always integers me how depressions walk hand in
> > > hand with fear. I did some study in depressions and animals were
> > > showing the same depression reactions in stressful hopeless situations
> > > as humans as a way to survive. Nevertheless I was wondering what the
> > > functions are of these feelings and emotions for a human being in your
> > > visions.
>
> > > Take a guess,
> > > Matthijs- Hide quoted text -
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