2009/8/18 BB47 <[email protected]> > > Well, if it is a "right" then why are you not covering all the people > in Africa and India and Afghanistan? Why, if it is indeed a universal > right. Why is it only wihtin your countries borders? > There must be a reason why this universal right only applies to > "developed countries" as someone put it. Rights are enforced by > people. Why aren't you enforcing it worldwide? > Paying for ALL humans that have "the need."
Sorry to answer for you, Lee, but BB is again deflecting from any real argument here by building themselves a nice little strawman. BB, the point is this: once a country reaches a certain point of social and economic development, the role and power of the state changes and so inevitably do the prescribed rights of its citizens. You could be belligerent here and argue "why?", which is fine as a principle, but to argue that it simply doesn't is a difficult one. I think you would struggle to find many (any?) Europeans who did not think that free health care and education were a right. Francis linked to an article about some American's fear of government, and a few right wingers here have espoused similar views (even to the extent of wanting to arm themselves against said government). I think this is perhaps the root of it. It's easy to poke fun at these conservative opinions on health care and call them primitive or at least anachronistic, but I do think there's something there that needs to be heard and considered. The Right needs to balance the Left (always), but, on this occasion, I have been left feeling a little disappointed that the Right hasn't mustered a single coherent argument in this discussion. Lots of vitriol, lots of fear mongering and paranoia (Russian! Subs!), and lots of deflecting (define greed!). Ian --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
