“…since the Left in Britain has become obsessed with accommodating repressive religious ideals and stifling free speech... well, succinctly, I'll have nothing to do with them unless we meet on specific issues.” – Ian
Ian, even though we are on apparently opposite sides of the ‘pond’, we are one with the above sentiment. I might even be so turned off by the ‘left’ over here as to not wish to meet on specific issues. The best I can tell, the only way to grab attention from politicians is to not vote for them, period! So, even though I have been registered independent for years now, the ‘left’ entirely lost me when Pelosi refused to have impeachment on the table. Now, if single payer health insurance is not supported by the ‘left’, they are not the left and deserve no support. In fact, I will vote for anyone else, mostly 3rd party people and get as many friends as possible to do the same thing. On Aug 20, 12:42 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > 2009/8/19 BB47 <[email protected]> > > > > > What you fail to see is that each government does not choose the > > same path, nor do the people in it. > > I'm not sure I have failed to notice this since, on the case in question, it > seems like the call for socialised health care in America isn't one that is > going away. On that point, America is not unlike older developed nations in > the path it is following. On other points, you may be right. > > America's difficulty, I think, is the baggage of failed capitalist > philosophies ("the freer the market, the freer the people") which are > wrongly regarded sacrosanct or immutable. Even now, with the debt which will > saddle the American taxpayer for a generation -- following big business > corruption, endless fraud, and the failure of banks -- people are dumbly > clinging to this free market principle. I can only guess this has nothing to > do with concern for the actual "freedom" of fellow citizens, rather it has > everything to do with their own atavistic proclivities for exploitative > opportunism and greed. > > > > > We have "the right to bear arms" for instance. > > Don't go there... :) > > > > > Only part of it, Ian, only part of it. Open your mind to listen > > instead of concluding. > > I think I'm more open than most to hearing an argument from the Right. Not > that I would ever vote Tory. When I was younger I considered myself a > liberal, however since the Left in Britain has become obsessed with > accommodating repressive religious ideals and stifling free speech... well, > succinctly, I'll have nothing to do with them unless we meet on specific > issues. > > > > > You still ignore defining greed I see. And you have the nerve to > > talk about "deflecting?" > > In this political context, greed refers to a short-sighted philosophy where > people see themselves in some way separate from society and therefore not > responsible for it. Society's problems are society's, not theirs. They do > not buy into a shared social and economic vision for their nation, do not > recognise that this is the core of so many problems that directly affect > them, and prefer instead to earn what wealth they can and ignore social > issues until they are part of them (unemployment, for example). > > Ian --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
