would you rather Sartre said it? http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parkx032/AU67.html
On Aug 23, 1:57 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > "understanding the meaninglessness" - puh, Molly, I know I've been > down to saying very stupid things, but at least I always knew they > were, I didn't label them dot dot dot for the other to come up with > something I can't think of and use it for my own benefit. > > On 23 Aug., 16:16, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > there are times when, only by understanding the meaninglessness, new > > meaning can emerge... > > > On Aug 22, 7:23 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I guess the thing I wish we could get 'timely' about would be truth > > > and reconciliation. I begin to believe the 'conspiracy' is to make > > > life meaningless. > > > > On 22 Aug, 17:49, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > How synchronistic...I know that Pat recently had a bout of the flu > > > > also... > > > > > On Aug 22, 12:33 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The microbes and the antibiotics - I sympathise with you, Neil. I > > > > > recently spent three weeks daily swallowing a not insignificant dose > > > > > of doxycycline to deal with an incipient borelliosis (Lyme disease) - > > > > damned ticks! There's something quite stressful about feeling out > of > > > > > > sorts and not even being sure if its the illness itself or the > > > > > antibiotic treatment for it that's causing the discomfort. I wish you > > > > > a speedy recovery ... > > > > > > Francis > > > > > > On 22 Aug., 17:11, archytas <nwte...@googlemailcom> wroote: > > > > > > > The concept of self, or more specifically the sense of unity of > > > > > > self, > > > > > > has both synchronic ('I seem to be a uniied self aat any given > > > > > > moment') and diachronic ('I seem to be the same self as I was a few > > > > > > minutes/hours/months/years ago') aspects. Currently, I am feeling > > > > > > rather broken - like my watch with the dud battery, but with the > > > > > > added > > > > > > knowledge (Slip was right) that my kinetic watch was stolen. I'd be > > > > > > intuiting Orn but am otherwise engaged in a wa aggainst a microbe > > > > > > horde in need of eviction from my glandular system and, unlike my > > > > > > watch, am on tickover until the antibiotics triumph Beforee Slip > > > > > > points out electronic watches don't tick, let me say that this watch > > > > > > has a very annoying, non-syncopating tick option, and my other > > > > > > (stolen) watch may well be ticking to someone else's tune. I am so > > > > > > ill I hav develloped an interest in Willard Quine again and have > > > > > > somewhat naturalised my philosophy so as not to be too exposed to > > > > > > the > > > > > > risk of theoretical truth. All this at a time I haven't had a drink > > > > > > for two weeks Francis! - no doubt causing my current delusive state > > > > > > in > > > > > > which England are regaining the Ashes. Test Match Special will set > > > > > > you free ... > > > > > > > On 22 Aug, 15:24, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am not expert of Jung, but have enjoyed his writing and work > > > > > > > now and > > > > > > > then. I think what this means is that there is something more > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > what we think of as cause and effect at play here. That while, as > > > > > > > Slip suggests, sychronistic events for us are responsive to our > > > >> > > indiviidual thoughts and feelings, we do not cause them to come > > > >> > > about > > > > > > > like we cause a stone to roll by kicking it. Synchronicity is, I > > > > > > > think, always at play in our lives, but our awareness of it > > > > > > > increases > > > > > > > as our perception of the more subtle levels of being changes. We > > > > > > > don't cause it, we become aware of it by tuning into it. > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 7:37 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would wonder the same thing about it all being acausal. I > > > > > > > > remember > > > > > > > > when my mother in law died m wife, a life long devout catholic, > > > > > > > > mentioned something about a sign, a butterfly that would > > > > > > > > appear. I > > > > > > > > always thought that to be coincidence but at the cemetery, > > > > > > > > there it > > > > > > > > was, a large white butterfly that landed and stay for several > > > > > > > > minutes > > > > > > > > then casually flew off. I guess there is some synchronicity > > > > > > > > there, > > > > > > > > in the death, the mention of and appearance of the butterfly. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 12:33 am, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Great question.As a belieever I wonder why Jung calls > > > > > > > > > synchronicity > > > > > > > > > 'acausal' in that essay "Synchronicity, An Acausal Connecting > > > > > > > >> Princciple". Does he embrace a Humean noion of causality as > > > > > > > >> constant > > > > > > > > > conjunction in whichcausess precede effects temporally? > > > > > > > > > > Yet I do find myself reluctant to jump in with both feet and > > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > something a meaningful coincidence. This is no doubt my > > > > > > > > > inner atheist > > > > > > > > > whispering. As a believer I know synchronicity under a > > > > > > > > > different name: > > > > > > > > > providence. God always meets our real needs. Sometimes I see > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > pattern and call it providence. Usually I do not, perhaps > > > > > > > > > because it > > > > > > > > > is to bright for my minds eye. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 5:08 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Synchronicity is a word that has come up now and then in > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > discussions and is, I think, becoming more a part of our > > > > > > > > > > scientific > > > > > > > > > > and philosophic paradigms. Webster defines it as: the > > > > > > > > > > quality or > > > > > > > > > > state of being synchronous or simultaneous : concurrence of > > > > > > > > > > acts, > > > > > > > > > > events, or developments in time : coincident movement or > > > > > > > > > > existence; > > > > > > > > > > chronological arrangement of historical events and > > > > > > > > > > personages so as to > > > > > > > > > > indicate coincidence or coexistence; a representation in > > > > > > > > > > the same > > > > > > > > > > picture of two or more events which occurred at different > > > > > > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > Jung required a larger framework for his idea of > > > > > > > > > > synchronicity, a > > > > > > > > > > framework that reveals an underlying pattern for what he > > > > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > > "temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events." > > > > > > > > > > > What does synchronicity mean to you? 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