That I think I can agree with.
On 24 Aug, 14:54, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> So was there a deal, a bargaining chip (not the potato)? Lybia has
> much to offer. Or perhaps no one wants to spring for the expensive
> medical treatments except his compatriots. If he doesn't die in a few
> months or by the end of the year, all hell is going to break loose, I
> hope the diagnosis was spot on. I would think either way the alerts
> should run as high as the tensions.
>
> On Aug 24, 7:45 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > No doubt Americans will not be ordering haggis with their freedom
> > fries this week. The decision to free the guy was right and he was
> > only greeted by his tribe back home. A full enquiry would be good on
> > this one, so we might find out who the real victims are and who did
> > what to whom. Someone should have been hung in my view for allowing
> > an unaccompanied bag on a plane and for not learning the lessons in
> > time (many years on) to stop 9-11. Our societies are wide open to
> > terrorism - this makes me suspect there is much less around than the
> > authorities claim - otherwise we'd have daily body counts because it
> > is so easy to beat our 'defences'. What happened in Mumbai could
> > happen all over the UK if any organised groups wanted to. The IRA
> > could have chosen to do much more mainland terrorism. The lies about
> > this stuff run deep.
>
> > On 24 Aug, 12:30, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I really don't know about this man's innocence or his guilt, it is
> > > irrelevant to 'compassion'
>
> > > My dad while I was in my teens got pretty badly stabbed up, he died
> > > and was resusercated, his attaker got a two year suspended sentance,
> > > suspended for two years. He never done any jail time, but evn if my
> > > father had died, and this man had spent no matter how many years
> > > inside, I would still have no qualms about his realease on
> > > 'Compassionate' grounds.
>
> > > After all as I have asked, why should his family be punished for his
> > > deeds?
>
> > > As the familes of the bombing yes of course I feel for them, but you
> > > said yourself 'some form of closer'. The bloke has been inside, he has
> > > served time for the crime, now he is dieing, why should he not be able
> > > to die at home, why should his wife and kids not be aforded that?
>
> > > What in essance you are saying here, is that this man nor his family
> > > should be shown no comppasion.
>
> > > I also cannot understand that sort of mindset. To me it shows the
> > > same lack of respect for life that this man has been punished for.
> > > There for the grace of god perhaps?
>
> > > I have never been an 'eye for an eye' type of person, I see it as
> > > pointless and endulging in the kind of behaviour that it seeks to rail
> > > against. I grew up telling myself this, I can lower myself to the
> > > standards of those whos behaviour I find abhorent, or I can choose to
> > > be the better man and rise above it.
>
> > > You can do this also you know. I find 'Compassion' a far better thing
> > > than 'Revenge'
>
> > > On 24 Aug, 12:18, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Ah but imagine if it was your father or your wife or, God forbid, one
> > > > of your children that was killed in the bombing. Imagine the pain and
> > > > loss and agony of nobody paying for this horrible crime for years
> > > > until finally a man is charged and eventually convicted and you and
> > > > your family get some form of closure. Until now. Having that scumbag
> > > > Qaddafi invovled just makes it 10 times as bad. The 'heroes welcome'
> > > > was another slap to the face to family members. Who deserves the
> > > > compassion here Lee? Sometimes other people's opinions baffle me.
>
> > > > If you think the man is innocent that's different. I know nothing
> > > > about this case except what I've heard recently. Personally, if he's
> > > > guilty I think he should have been executed.
>
> > > > dj
>
> > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:14 AM,
>
> > > > [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > You know personaly this has made me shout at the TV more than I
> > > > > normaly do.
>
> > > > > Let me see if this make logical sense, because to mind mind there
> > > > > seems to be something that has been forgotten in all of the news and
> > > > > upheaveal sorrounding this.
>
> > > > > A man that was found guilty of a crime and has serverd a good few
> > > > > years imprisonment for it has been realsed on compassionant grounds,
> > > > > he is not a residant of the UK, he is dying of cancer and he has been
> > > > > sent home to die.
>
> > > > > We had a similar thing here the other week with Ronnie Biggs the great
> > > > > train robber, there has not been the same level of ill will about
> > > > > that, not by a longshot.
>
> > > > > So the conclusion I have reached is one of the severity of the crime,
> > > > > and the level of or lack of commpasion that should or has been shown.
>
> > > > > To my mind what is missing in the news coverage is this word
> > > > > compassion. I can only find therefore that all of those who feel
> > > > > outraged belive that no compassion should be show. That in my mid IS
> > > > > outragouse, why should any dieing mans family feel punished for the
> > > > > crimes of the father?
>
> > > > > If it was my dad in prison, I would love to have him home to die,
> > > > > easpecily if he was imprisoned in a foriegn country.
>
> > > > > The Scotish legal system has shown high ethical standards here, and it
> > > > > upsets me, and angers me that we as a speices seem to lack a sense of
> > > > > compassion, and turn instead in anger upon the very people who show
> > > > > such compassion. Man it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, I feel
> > > > > ashamed, truely I do.
>
> > > > > On 23 Aug, 00:43, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> On Aug 22, 2:26 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > We release a probably not guilty patsy.
>
> > > > >> You used the word "probably" so it sounds like you reached some level
> > > > >> of conclusion, yet later you say that there is no way we will ever
> > > > >> know? Did you see every shred of evidence presented in court? I
> > > > >> didn't, you might have. All I know is that somebody was responsible
> > > > >> and that it appears to me that all parties reacted somewhat poorly,
> > > > >> including the celebration at the airport. The "patsy" part?
> > > > >> Possible, but again you seem to have reached a conclusion.
>
> > > > >> > No doubt some long done
> > > > >> > commercial 'deal' was involved.
>
> > > > >> No doubt? I have some doubt. I can't say either way
>
> > > > >> > Embarrassment over our pathetic legal
>
> > > > >> > systems is avoided.
>
> > > > >> Pathetic in comparison or just the whole lot of them? Why are they
> > > > >> pathetic?
>
> > > > >> >This was surely enough to inflict on us as a
> > > > >> > public. The authorities cannot resist piling more on. All sorts
> > > > >> > of
> > > > >> > ministers and legal agents used to crawling out from under rocks
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > trading drugs for arms amongst our enemies now tell us their
> > > > >> > honour is
> > > > >> > insulted as they scramble to bask in the sordid sun of moral high
> > > > >> > ground. The real message is that we will never know the truth
> > > > >> > about
> > > > >> > Lockerbie and that we are unpatriotic even to think them capable of
> > > > >> > dreadful lies, despite history constantly revealing this is what
> > > > >> > they
> > > > >> > do. I wonder if we could list the typical lies they tell?
>
> > > > >> Sure, go ahead and list them if it makes you feel better or for any
> > > > >> other reason, I won't mind.
> > > > >> Maybe we can set up some sort of "court" in here in regards to the
> > > > >> accusations of the lies and we could conduct it in your way so that
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> would not be "pathetic?"- Hide quoted text -
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