Too many factors left undefined. Is he guilty? If so, what did he do? If he stole a car drunk and ran over a kid getting off a school bus by accident then I want him to come home. If he buggered(very popular word in ME lately) my son I'd let him die in prison and not go to the funeral. There are qualifiers for everything. As rule, I'd vote against a policy of compassionate early release. That doesn't mean I wouldn't do my best to circumvent this rule if it benefited me somehow. Case in point; the late Senator Edward Kennedy's dying wish was to reverse a rule he supported 4 years ago that benefited the Democratic party at the time and screwed the republicans. Now the shoe is on the other foot and he shamelessly wanted things back the way they were before he made the change. This is human nature. Sneaky and selfish to the bitter end.
dj On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:49 AM, [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry sir I totaly disagree, lets measure up your one example against > what could be considerd the norm. A quick straw poll should suffice. > > So hands up all of those members here if caught up in the same > situation would like to see their father or son come home to die, and > hands up all of those who would not? > > On 26 Aug, 10:49, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> For sure, Lee, especially in consideration of the nature of these >> crimes, the heinous and monstrous intent. Not to mention the cultural >> aspect, as I pointed out earlier and provided a link, the Muslim >> family wants the teenage girl, (their own daughter) dead just on the >> basis of religious conversion. But your assumption in a case where >> that girl was in prison for a heinous crime would be that the family >> was suffering and felt punished and that it would be compassionate to >> let the girl out of prison, send her home to her family because she >> was terminally ill. Unreasonable assumption? Absolutely! >> >> On Aug 26, 4:01 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Slip I have admited there is a bit of that about it, but as I have >> > asked you do you belive it is an 'unreasonable' assumption to make? >> >> > On 26 Aug, 08:58, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > Don, logically there is no basis for Lee's view. It's all based on >> > > assumptive reasoning. We don't know how these family members are >> > > feeling and cannot presume they are suffering or feeling punished by >> > > the incarceration or by society and again if al-megrahi lives through >> > > a whole year there is going to be some heads rolling. I saw one of >> > > the victims stating that her husband was supposed to die of cancer 5 >> > > years ago and he's still around. >> >> > > On Aug 25, 11:43 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Why should the inocent be punished? -Lee >> >> > > > They aren't punished. I don't doubt they suffer but it's incorrect to >> > > > say they are punished. They are, I suppose in a way, also victims of >> > > > their relative's actions. As I think Slip touched on earlier the only >> > > > person that owes these people something is the perpetrator of the >> > > > crime. Certainly I understand compassion for them. It doesn't make >> > > > me want to release a hardened criminal to make them feel better. >> >> > > > I'm not sure how many of you took the time to read Tink's little bio. >> > > > What stood out for me is his attitude that his incarceration was >> > > > unjustified because his infractions were minimal. I saw a pattern of >> > > > 'poor me, I'm the victim.' This, in my admittedly limited experience, >> > > > seems a quite common attitude amongst convicts. Recidivism being what >> > > > it is I'd want to address this personality flaw were I the criminal >> > > > type. >> >> > > > I'm just sayin' >> >> > > > dj >> >> > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:10 AM, >> >> > > > [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > >> By your logic we should show compassion to a pair of murderers >> > > > >> because >> > > > >> they are, lets say, orphans. Never mind they are orphans because >> > > > >> they >> > > > >> murdered their parents for the inheritance. It would be >> > > > >> hypocritical >> > > > >> of me to concern myself with HOW they became orphans, yes? The poor >> > > > >> dears deserve our sympathy. >> >> > > > > Opps forgot to address this. >> >> > > > > You assume dear boy that the compassion I speak of is to the man >> > > > > realsed, and yes there is some there, but I mean mostly his family. >> > > > > Why should the inocent be punished?- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
