2009/9/8 Pat <[email protected]>: > Of course. For example, I don't know your middle name. But, then, > how vital is that to what I need to do?
So you feel that God has made you aware of everything that is of consequence? When it comes to things of consequence you do, indeed, know as much as God? > If God is trying to pull the wool over people's eyes, then He's a > liar. Since God has instructed us to not lie, it would be foolish to > think that He doesn't follow His own laws. You deny God the ability to change his mind? Since God is the ultimate source of truth it is impossible for him to lie not because of any external regulation but because everything that he says is, by definition, true. For example at time T1 God could say that for Pat to get into Heaven he must do X. That would be true since all that God says is true. At time T2 God says that X is not correct and instead Pat must do Y to get into heaven. That would also be true. Did God lie at T1? No. Why not? Because everything that God says, by definition, is true. You seem to want to nail God down based on an external source of truth. That doesn't sound right to me. So, it seems to me that you can never know God's purpose unless you: A) Make him subject to an external source of judgment for truth and lies B) Deny him the ability to change his mind C) Assume that you know all that God knows vis a vis his purpose Is that what you do? > I think Orn thrashed you enough on this, so I won't do it again. That is an overstatement. His assertion of tautology was based on what I said being slightly misunderstood. I stand by my feeling that self-validating experiences are not valid in an argument. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
