2009/9/13 Vam <[email protected]>:
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> " This makes me wonder if one only finds what one wishes to find and
> therefore the result arises from the subject's own wishes and desires
> rather than some other alternate state of being or reality."
>
>
> Most do not reach it. And that is a ' nasty ' experience ...  to try
> and meet the block. The process is often nasty.
>
>
> Yet, you may not be far from your conclusion about those who actually
> experience it ... that, it fulfills one's own wishes and desires. Some
> traditions term ' IT ' as the wish fulfilling tree. In a way, what
> good is the ' thing ' if it does not fulfills my deepest desire !
> That it does lends, in part, ITS value to us.

I see. So one does not discover the nature of reality then, it is the
nature of themselves, I suppose. But then, if so, everyone sees the
nature of themselves as pleasant, never ugly.

Heck, without deep introspection and meditation I can find lots about
myself that is ugly while fully conscious.

You see I can introspect and chant forever and nada, nothing, zip
zilch. I don't find that nasty at all. When I lived in China I spent
some considerable time in a Buddhist temple. I think they gave up on
me. :)

No good stuff no bad stuff. So I am really interested why it is always
presented as good, never ugly. Everyone has some ugly in them but they
never seem to find it in meditation, perhaps it is not that useful if
it provides a false sense of self that is always lovely.

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