For those that don't believe every human being has a dark side as well as a light side try this:
"Super celestial thoughts breed subterranean conduct."? Montaigne -----Original Message----- From: Vam <[email protected]> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Sep 13, 2009 9:33 pm Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: consciousness " Everyone has some ugly in them but they never seem to find it in meditation ... " That 's hopelessly incorrect. Google Vipasna. You must come face to face with the demons ( devil ) within you, see them off to ' finish,' before entering the light and peace within you. That 's the standard, well - known process. I also see why people do not speak of the ugliness they discover and know of within themselves. Because it is ugly, it is theirs individually, and upto no good for others. They speak of the light, peace and good, because that what is enduring, more true, more useful news for others. On Sep 13, 11:23?pm, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote: > 2009/9/13 Vam <[email protected]>: > > > > > " This makes me wonder if one only finds what one wishes to find and > > therefore the result arises from the subject's own wishes and desires > > rather than some other alternate state of being or reality." > > > Most do not reach it. And that is a ' nasty ' experience ... ?to try > > and meet the block. The process is often nasty. > > > Yet, you may not be far from your conclusion about those who actually > > experience it ... that, it fulfills one's own wishes and desires. Some > > traditions term ' IT ' as the wish fulfilling tree. In a way, what > > good is the ' thing ' if it does not fulfills my deepest desire ! > > That it does lends, in part, ITS value to us. > > I see. So one does not discover the nature of reality then, it is the > nature of themselves, I suppose. But then, if so, everyone sees the > nature of themselves as pleasant, never ugly. > > Heck, without deep introspection and meditation I can find lots about > myself that is ugly while fully conscious. > > You see I can introspect and chant forever and nada, nothing, zip > zilch. I don't find that nasty at all. When I lived in China I spent > some considerable time in a Buddhist temple. I think they gave up on > me. :) > > No good stuff no bad stuff. So I am really interested why it is always > presented as good, never ugly. Everyone has some ugly in them but they > never seem to find it in meditation, perhaps it is not that useful if > it provides a false sense of self that is always lovely. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
