Again, what Molly said. Even though, while meditating, often I face what I would guess you call 'ugly'. For me, I find that this is where the wealth of my experience lies and where I can learn and transcend such things. In fact, it is where I go to 'mine' gold, although I mostly await it to arise, there are times I direct the search. So, non-duality in one sense. In another, direct apprehension of both the relative AND the absolute. And, near the base of 'mind', as Molly suggests, such things are of no issue at all.
On Sep 13, 11:39 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > "Everyone has some ugly in them but they > never seem to find it in meditation" > > Past life regression meditation may change your mind about that. > There are meditative states that include what some call the "astral > emotional" realm, where karma applies and cause and effect duality is > seen. Most deep meditative states are non dual and, as you say, not > concerned with ugly. > > On Sep 13, 2:23 pm, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > 2009/9/13 Vam <[email protected]>: > > > > " This makes me wonder if one only finds what one wishes to find and > > > therefore the result arises from the subject's own wishes and desires > > > rather than some other alternate state of being or reality." > > > > Most do not reach it. And that is a ' nasty ' experience ... to try > > > and meet the block. The process is often nasty. > > > > Yet, you may not be far from your conclusion about those who actually > > > experience it ... that, it fulfills one's own wishes and desires. Some > > > traditions term ' IT ' as the wish fulfilling tree. In a way, what > > > good is the ' thing ' if it does not fulfills my deepest desire ! > > > That it does lends, in part, ITS value to us. > > > I see. So one does not discover the nature of reality then, it is the > > nature of themselves, I suppose. But then, if so, everyone sees the > > nature of themselves as pleasant, never ugly. > > > Heck, without deep introspection and meditation I can find lots about > > myself that is ugly while fully conscious. > > > You see I can introspect and chant forever and nada, nothing, zip > > zilch. I don't find that nasty at all. When I lived in China I spent > > some considerable time in a Buddhist temple. I think they gave up on > > me. :) > > > No good stuff no bad stuff. So I am really interested why it is always > > presented as good, never ugly. Everyone has some ugly in them but they > > never seem to find it in meditation, perhaps it is not that useful if > > it provides a false sense of self that is always lovely.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
