“… If you are implying that that experience renders a person unhealthy
I would have to disagree.” – SD

Well, I wasn’t exactly implying stuff, just asking what your actual
view is before I decide to jump in. Sadly, what you mean to say
remains mostly opaque to me. So, as I put my toe in and make some
statements and questions, let’s both realize that I’m not sure of what
you are meaning to say.

IF your above ‘that experience’ equates to not feeling love, then yes,
I would say such a state IS unhealthy. However, here the obvious issue
is that precious few people hold the same ideas about what love means!
So…we have at least a double whammy here Slip.

Some of the words that for me, when taken all together, produce muddy
water in your last post include: “somewhat dormant”, “in essence
nonexistent”, “void of certain emotions”, “rarely evident”, “tune it
out”, “don’t feel it anymore”, “nonexistent”. Yes, I know, it IS a
complex situation and few of the above listed notions convey the same
meaning, at least not to me. Perhaps you are implying that given
enough different people, all of the above can be found?

Anyway, assuming some level of understanding here, upon what basis do
you continue to assert that a person who does not allow him/herself to
feel love is in fact healthy rather than impaired?




On Sep 27, 6:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Your close but you added 'full' which changes the implication.  I'm
> suggesting that there are specific emotions that, when experienced
> over a course of time, can become somewhat dormant and in essence non
> existent.  I know that personally I may be void of certain emotions or
> at least they are rarely evident. I think that after so many
> experiences with a certain emotion people can simply tune in out,
> which is very common with love.  After getting burned enough times,
> people just don't feel it anymore.  Many people just go through the
> motions for the obvious benefits but the emotion is non existent.  If
> you are implying that that experience renders a person unhealthy I
> would have to disagree.
>
> On Sep 27, 8:26 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "... We react differently to the same stimuli at different levels of
> > maturity so emotions can change in time and in some cases become non
> > existent." - SD
>
> > Slip, are you implying that it is possible for a healthy human to
> > achieve full lack of emotions?
>
> > On Sep 27, 5:21 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I need some Kleenex, sniff sniff.  lol
>
> > > Seriously, emotions are responsive to external stimuli and a result of
> > > the perception of that stimuli.  For this reason different people
> > > react differently to similar stimuli.  Not all people are brought to
> > > tears by what is perceived by some as a very sad event, therefore
> > > emotions can be subjective.  Emotions can be a release of subconscious
> > > senses and play a role in growth.  We react differently to the same
> > > stimuli at different levels of maturity so emotions can change in time
> > > and in some cases become non existent.
>
> > > On Sep 27, 11:13 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > What role does emotion play in our everyday lives?  How does emotion
> > > > affect our experience and being?  These are questions addressed by
> > > > some of the finest minds of our era.
>
> > > > For Piaget, emotion is the motivating force of action emanating from
> > > > outside the individual in the form of sensations emitted by objects.
> > > > His view is rooted in the Newtonian conception of a universe comprised
> > > > in isolated objects requiring an emotive force to initiate a series of
> > > > mechanistic interactions between objects.  Piaget reduces all
> > > > conscious human experience to a cognitive formulation of these causal
> > > > relations.    His abstract concept of emotion as force fails to
> > > > explain the relationship between bodily feelings, emotions, and higher
> > > > forms of consciousness in human beings.
>
> > > > Alfred North Whitehead indicates the factors in human nature which go
> > > > to make up the particular emotions, arise from our apprehension of
> > > > these permanent features of order in the world. His concrete concept
> > > > of emotion gives insight into the experience of bodily feelings and
> > > > their relationship to the growth and learning of human beings.  He
> > > > explains the emotions are the crucial mediating factors between the
> > > > welter of awareness of these feelings in higher organisms.  “We
> > > > perceive other things which are in the world of actualities in the
> > > > same sense as we are.   So our emotions are directed toward other
> > > > things, including of course, our bodily organs . . . the world for me
> > > > is nothing else than how the functioning of my body present it for my
> > > > experience.”
>
> > > > Jean Paul Sartre sees it differently in his book, The Emotions,
> > > > Outline of a Theory.  He sees our emotion as an “abrupt drop of
> > > > consciousness into the magical.”  He believes:  “emotion is not
> > > > accidental modification of a subject which would otherwise be plunged
> > > > into an unchanged world.  It is easy to see that every emotional
> > > > apprehension of an object which frightens, irritates, sadness, etc.,
> > > > can be made only on the basis of a total alteration of the world.  In
> > > > order that an object may in reality appear terrible, it must realize
> > > > itself as an immediate and magical presence face to face with
> > > > consciousness.“  In other words, we modify our experience with emotion
> > > > to make it more comfortable, according to our own nature.  We emote
> > > > sadness, anger or gloom because “lacking the power and will to
> > > > accomplish the acts which we have been planning, we behave in such a
> > > > way that the universe no longer requires anything of us.”
>
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