Hi Gill. I find your post perplexing. So, if you don’t mind unpacking it a bit, I’d appreciate it. Thanks!
On Sep 28, 4:37 pm, [email protected] wrote: > This is a truly mighy point of view as long as the one who professes it has a > lot more clout than the person > > he is committed to butchering. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 5:28 pm > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: my favourite ignobles > > es, Chris, thanks for the additions. Che was a great man! > However, when I Googled your 2nd quotation of his, the entire first > age related to it was nothing but rabid radical righties ranting. To > person, their views were such that I am sure not even you would > ccept most of ‘em without applying fallacies to almost everything > osted therein. > You left out a few from what I can only guess were your above > entioned sources: > “I have no house, wife, children, parents, or brothers; my friends are > riends as long as they think like me, politically.” > "Executions? Certainly we execute! And we will CONTINUE executing as > ong as it is necessary! This is a war to the DEATH against the > evolution's enemies!" Che Guevara while addressing the UN General > ssembly on December 9, 1964. > (I include the following one because I thought the last sentence was > mportant.) > Blind hate against the enemy creates a forceful impulse that cracks > he boundaries of natural human limitations, transforming the soldier > n an effective, selective and cold killing machine. A people without > ate cannot triumph against the adversary." > "Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaug > htering any > nemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the > crid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I > repare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant > roletariat with a bestial howl!" > > Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, > hich pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him > nto an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing > achine. This is what our soldiers must become … " Che Guevara > > he apparent divergence of content of Che quotes helps support that > ctuality of revolution (internal and external), dialectics and its > ethodology. Also, when the specific source of such quotes and > ttitudes is researched, less ignorance and confusion about the issue > s the result. > See:http://cubaarchive.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id... > Of course those who finance the organization should be observed > too:http://cubaarchive.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id... > The one PhD from Georgia, Dr. Douglas Young, surprised me because he > ent on even more of a rant than I often do! If one wants to chat with > im, he can be reached at: > 678-717-3872 > [email protected]http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm > ttp://www.zoominfo.com/people/Young_Douglas_100297548.aspx > Oh, here is one more, from the book “Exposing the Real Che Guevara and > he useful idiots who idolize him” – Humberto Fontova > A real neutral title, no? ;-)] It and others on the web differ a > ittle from the example you posted Chris > , but not much. > “To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is > nnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This > s a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing > achine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The > all! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara > However, such cherry picking is just that. > Here are some new quotes from the 2004 movie ‘The Motorcycle Diaries > Diarios de motocicleta]’. I find many of them to be quite > lluminating. > > ~ This isn’t a tale of heroics, nor is it merely some kind of ‘cynical > ccount’; it isn’t meant to be, at least. It’s a chunk of two lives > unning parallel for a while, with common aspirations and similar > reams.~ > ~ We look like outlaws inspiring admiration everywhere we go. We’ve > eft civilization behind and we are much closer to the land.~ > ~ A revolution without guns? It would never work.~ > ~ The deeper we go into the Andes the more indigenous people we > ncounter, who are homeless in their own land. All across our own > and.~ > ~ What we had in common - our restlessness, our impassioned spirits, > nd a love for the open road.~ > ~ How is it possible to feel nostalgia for a world I never knew?~ > ~ You gotta fight for every breath and tell death to go to hell.~ > ~ Are you talking to the motorcycle again?~ > ~ What do we leave behind when we cross each frontier? Each moment > eems split in two; melancholy for what was left behind and the > xcitement of ente > ring a new land.~ > Even though we are too insignificant to be spokesmen for such a > oble cause, we believe, and this journey has only confirmed this > elief, that the division of American into unstable and illusory > ations is a complete fiction. We are one single mestizo race from > exico to the Magellan Straits. And so, in an attempt to free > urselves from narrow minded provincialism, I propose a toast to Peru > nd to a united America.~ > ~ Wandering around our America has changed me more than I thought. I > m not me any more. At least I'm not the same me I was.~ > ~ Me, I'm not the same me, at least not the same spiritual me.~ > ~ "I knew that when the great guiding spirit cleaves humanity into two > ntagonistic halves, I will be with the people" ~ Ernesto 'Ché' > uevara~ > ~ "What do we leave behind when we cross each frontier? Each moment > eems split in two; melancholy for what was left behind and the > xcitement of entering a new land" ~ Ernesto 'Ché' Guevara~ > ~ "All of them, all those who can’t adapt – you and I, for instance – > ill die cursing the power which they helped bring about with often > normous sacrifices. Revolution is impersonal, so it will take their > ives and even use their memory as an example or as an instrument to > ontrol the young people coming after them…you will die with your fist > lenched and your jaw tense, the perfect manifestation of hatred and > truggle, because you aren’t a symbol (some inanimate example), you > re an authentic member of t > he society to be destroyed; the spirit of > he beehive speaks through your mouth and moves through your actions. > ou are as useful as I am, but you don’t realize how useful your > ontribution is to the society that sacrifices you."~ > Movie trailer:http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2956657433/ > On Sep 28, 11:53 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Yep, ol Che is quite quotable... > "Hatred is an element of struggle; relentless hatred of the enemy that > impels us over and beyond the natural limitations of man and transforms us > into effective, violent, selective, and cold killing machines." > > "*To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary. These > procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail.* This is a revolution! And a > revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate." > > "The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have > conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing, have seen > their patch invaded by a different kind of slave: The Portugese.... the > black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; > the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him > to this corner of America and drives him to get ahead." > > "If the missiles had remained, we would have used them against the very > heart of America including New York. We must never establish peaceful > coexistence. In this struggle to the death between two systems we must gain > the ultimate victory. We=2 > 0must walk the path of liberation even if it costs > millions of atomic victims." > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Che Guevara quotes: > > > Silence is argument carried out by other means. – Ernesto Che Guevara > > > The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to > > make it fall. – Ernesto Che Guevara > > > I don’t care if I fail as long as someone else picks up my gun and > > keeps shooting. – Ernesto Che Guevara > > > Random > > > We cannot be sure of having something to live for unless we are > > willing to die for it.- Ernesto Che Guevara > > > Hasta la victoria siempè! (Until victory always -- Struggle until > > victory forever!) - Ernesto Che Guevara > > > If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade > > of mine. - Ernesto Che Guevara > > > Words that do not match deeds are unimportant. - Ernesto Che Guevara > > > Cruel leaders are replaced only to have new leaders turn cruel! - > > Ernesto Che Guevara > > > I know you've come to kill me. Shoot, coward, you're only going to > > kill a man. - Ernesto Che Guevara (just before he was shot and > > murdered) > > > Revolutionary > > > At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true > > revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible > > to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality. - Ernesto > > Che Guev > ara > > > Our every action is a battle cry against imperialism, and a battle > > hymn for the people's unity against the great enemy of mankind: the > > United States of America. Wherever death may surprise us, let it be > > welcome, provided that this, our battle cry, may have reached some > > receptive ear, that another hand may be extended to wield our weapons, > > and that other men be ready to intone our funeral dirge with the > > staccato singing of the machine guns and new battle cries of war and > > victory. - Ernesto Che Guevara > > > We must carry the war into every corner the enemy happens to carry it: > > to his home, to his centers of entertainment; a total war. It is > > necessary to prevent him from having a moment of peace, a quiet moment > > outside his barracks or even inside; we must attack him wherever he > > may be, make him feel like a cornered beast wherever he may move. - > > Ernesto Che Guevara > > > Why does the guerrilla fighter fight? 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