Cantankerous today?
On Sep 29, 3:55 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's very good, Molly! Try to stay in this feeling a bit longer and
> work with it. Can you remember the last time you experienced this
> feeling?
>
> On 29 Sep., 15:31, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Here is the unabridged definition of phew : imitative of a whistling
> > sound
> > -- used to express discomfort caused usually by heat or humidity
>
> > are you expressing discomfort?
>
> > On Sep 28, 5:43 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm sorry, I should have written "phew", which is close to the puh-
> > > sound.
>
> > > On 28 Sep., 18:33, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > puh is not an english word. Translation? I am not sure what you mean
> > > > be reconnection, or why you think I am after it. My point was, that
> > > > physical, body sensations can be the origination of emotion, according
> > > > to Whitehead.
>
> > > > On Sep 28, 11:54 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Puh, Molly, if reconnecting is what you are after, think again. A
> > > > > breast-feeding mother feels in a very unphilosophical manner if her
> > > > > b
> > > > > baby could be hungry now.
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I think that is Whitehead's point, the emotions are grounded in the
> > > > > > body experience. In the case of the hungry infant, both are
> > > > > > possible,
> > > > > > in Whitehead's view.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 28, 10:15 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Well I m> wrote:
>
> ing when he died ,, well good riddance to another
>
> > > > > > > weirdo. He and his life has little bearing on mine, just a
> > > > > > > person of little
> > > > > > > interest and if that is indifference,, then lit it be..
>
> > > > > > > imo the baby crying is a food mantra.. and boy does it work in
> > > > > > > the greaandt
> > > > > > > majority of cases
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:38 PM, [email protected] <
>
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > My wfie woke me up just to let me know that he had died, i
> > > > > > > > muttered
> > > > > > > > die and then rolled over and went back to sleep.
>
> > > > > > > > Is indifferance an emotion, I wonder, or is such indifferance
> > > > > > > > caused
> > > > > > > > byfferance cauons I wonder?
>
> > > > > > > > On s I wonder?
>
> 0, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Not talking about lust or love but of emotional depletion.
> > > > > > > > > Again it's
> > > > > > > > > subjective and I could not possibly comment on your personal
> > > > > > > > > emotional
> > > > > > > > > levels nor that of any other so the generalization is
> > > > > > > > > apropos. Most
> > > > > > > > > of what you've commented on so far has been from a personal
> > > > > > > > > perspective. So what you are saying is that it is impossible
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > someone could be void of a certain emotion, that emotions are
> > > > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > degree involuntary. When Jackson died did everyone on the
> > > > > > > > > planet
> > > > > > > > > break down in tears or were there some who just shrugged the
> > > > > > > > > 'oh well'
> > > > > > > > > expression?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 28, 6:29 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Slip, to me, it appears th> > > Slip, toe talking about
> > > > > > > > > > lust than
> > > > > > > > > > love. And, even ‘romantic love’ is a confused term and a
> > > > > > > > > > misnomer as I
> > > > > > > > > > see it. So, I think we are not meeting on common ground. By
> > > > > > > > > > the way, I
> > > > > > > > > > am not saying that people are not knotted up and in a
> > > > > > > > > > confused state
> > > > > > > > > > with their feelings and appetites, thus feeling stuff like
> > > > > > > > > > you imply.
> > > > > > > > > > I just do not equate such quagmires with the term ‘love’.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Your hypothetical about my skepticism, while possible, more
> > > > > > > > > > likely
> > > > > > > > > > would not only not happen but from the start I would know
> > > > > > > > > > ‘who I was
> > > > > > > > > > with’ and there would be no confusion about a relationship
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > associated feelings.
>
> > > > > > > > > > When I contemplate the term ‘love’, I am considering seeing
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > ‘equal’…and, such a state can also exist in the heart
> > > > > > > > > > omnipresently
> > > > > > > > > > too. So, perhaps our currissue is a sea semantic
> > > > > > > > > > misapprehension.
>
> > > > > > c misappreheno me, IF what, for lack of a more accuratwhat,
> > > > > > forreal’ love is
> > > > > > > > > > no longer felt, I do consider the person impaired, no
> > > > > > > > > > matter their
> > > > > > > > > > history. In fact, IF one had defended against it, based on
> > > > > > > > > > historical
> > > > > > > > > > experiences, this is exactly the malady.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 10:31 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Before you decide to jump in? I thought you jumped in
> > > > > > > > > > > already :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I said earlier that emotions are subjective.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, given enough people all of the above can be found, I
> > > > > > > > > > > think that
> > > > > > > > > > > would be understood.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A person who does not allow? Never said that a person
> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't allow
> > > > > > > > > > > the emotion. I said that the person just doesn't feel it
> > > > > > > > > > > anymore.
> > > > > > > > > > > Your crossing wires with someone who for whatever reason,
> > > > > > > > > > > possibly
> > > > > > > > > > > hurt feelings, will shun love and someone who has had
> > > > > > > > > > > numerous love
> > > > > > > > > > > relationships that either failed, disintegrated or ended
> > > > > > > > > > > by some
> > > > > > > > > > > tragedy. This does not render the person impaired
> > > > > > > > > > > because the
> > > > > > > > > > > emotion just isn't there anymore. I'm sure that if you
> > > > > > > > > > > met a woman
> > > > > > > > > > > that was married 13 times, who claimed she was madly in
> > > > > > > > > > > love with
> > > > > > > > you,
> > > > > > > > > > > there would be some skepticism on your part as to whether
> > > > > > > > > > > she was
> > > > > > > > > > > feeling the emotion. A person who does not allow
> > > > > > > > > > > certainly has some
> > > > > > > > > > > issues.
> > > > > > > > > > > Love, aside from having many facets, is a very complex
> > > > > > > > > > > emotion. We
> > > > > > > > > > > really shouldn't confine it to romantic love for the sake
> > > > > > > > > > > of my
> > > > > > > > > > > assertion. One could love a certain food for years but
> > > > > > > > > > > one day just
> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't have the taste for it anymore. I'm sure there
> > > > > > > > > > > are other
> > > > > > > > > > > examples, be creative Orn.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 11:51 pm, ornamentalmind
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > “… If
> > aplying that that that experience renders a perat that experi
> > > > > > > > unhealthy
> isagree.” – SD
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I wasn’t exactly gree.” g stuff, just asking what
> > > > > > > > > > > > your actual
> > > > > > > > > > > > view is before Ide tide to jump in. Sadly, what you
> > > > > > > > > > > > mean to say
> > > > > > > > > > > > remains mostlly, aque to me. So, as I put my toe in and
> > > > > > > > > > > > make some
> > > > > > > > > > > > statements and question anlet’s both realize that I’m
> > > > > > > > > > > > not sure of
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > you are meaning to say.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > IF your above ‘that experience’ equates to not feeling
> > > > > > > > > > > > love, then
> > > > > > > > yes,
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would say such a state IS unhealthy. However, here
> > > > > > > > > > > > the obvious
> > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > > > > is that precious few people hold the same ideas about
> > > > > > > > > > > > what love
> > > > > > > > means!
> > > > > > > > > > > > So…we have at least a double whammy here Slip.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the words that for me, when taken all together,
> > > > > > > > > > > > produce
> > > > > > > > muddy
> > > > > > > > > > > > water in your last post include: “somewhat dormant”,
> > > > > > > > > > > > “in essence
> > > > > > > > > > > > nonexistent”, “void of certain emotions”, “rarely
> > > > > > > > > > > > evident”, “tune
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > out”, “don’t feel it anymore”, “nonexistent”. Yes, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > know, it IS a
> > > > > > > > > > > > complex situation and few of the above listed notions
> > > > > > > > > > > > convey the
> > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > > > meaning, at least not to me. Perhaps you are implying
> > > > > > > > > > > > that given
> > > > > > > > > > > > enough different people, all of the above can be found?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, assuming some level of understanding here, upon
> > > > > > > > > > > > what basis
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > you continue to assert that a person who does not allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > him/herself
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > feel love is in fact healthy rather than impaired?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 6:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Your close but you added 'full' which changes the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > implication.
> > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > suggesting that there are specific emotions that, when
> > > > > > > > experienced
> > > > > > > > > > > > > over a course of time, can become somewhat dormant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and in essence
> > > > > > > > non
> > > > > > > > > > > > > existent. I know that personally I may be void of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > certain
> > > > > > > > emotions or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at least they are rarely evident. I think that after
> > > > > > > > > > > > > so many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > experiences with a certain emotion people can simply
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tune in out,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > which is very common with love. After getting burned
> > > > > > > > > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > > times,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people just don't feel it anymore. Many people just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > go through
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > motions for the obvious benefits but the emotion is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > non existent.
> > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you are implying that that experience renders a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > person unhealthy
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > would have to disagree.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 8:26 pm, ornamentalmind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... We react differently to the same stimuli at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > levf
>
> > > > > > > > > > maturity so emotions can change in time and> > > > > > >
>
> > > > > > > > become non
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > existent." - SD
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slip, are you implying that it is possible for
>
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