Hah you misunderstand my intent Slip, I would not ridicule you nor anybody for the way they have been built, for poor decision making perhaps, for re-action without thought ohh yeah but for being who they are, now why would I do such a thing?
When I read that somebody does not feel empathy for their fellow man that does frigthen me, to my mind it marks a brain that does not work correctly, words like socialpath appear in the forefront of my mind, my wife has a tad of it herself and many have been the conversations between us on this particular differance. It may well be that I am 'overly sensistive' about such things that too is just the way I have been built. You are correct though, I can't do much about the victims of our bloody weather system in the Philipines, but I can and I do feel empathy towards their loss and grief, I feel a certian connection towards them as they are the same speices as me, I can no more help that than breathe really. Nope I don't wish to come down on you Slip, my post was more along the lines of trying to understand such a head as you say you have. On 28 Sep, 21:59, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Because I have a different emotional base should not evoke ridicule > but more so understanding that there are many differing > personalities. I posted a new thread on street violence but > truthfully aside from watching the video I felt not much more than > dismay and then moved on to the next news story. I don't really have > much empathy for humanity other than for those with whom I come in > personal contact with. I don't think there is anything wrong with > that position and it's not really an ability to disconnect its just > the way it is. There is no pre-meditation that prompts me to > disconnect. It's nothing new and in fact has been covered in past > threads, my feeling alien to this world and being present only as a > voyeur. I don't have any need to take part. I have the makings of > fame and notoriety but really don't care if I die unknown, I'm just > not impressed with it at all. Life is a fleeting moment in time and > so I spend the most of it in happiness and share that with those > around me. We've been through this before Lee, there is nothing I can > do about the lives of those people, so why should I spend time being > concerned? For me it's just a news story to read. When there is a > disaster I donate money to the relief fund, I give to several > charities, disabled organizations and extend my assistance in certain > situations where I can be of help. A tropical storm just killed 140 > people in the Philippines, what do you want me to do? That's life > bubba! Crying over it isn't going to change anything. > > On Sep 28, 8:59 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I think it's more than chilly mate, I think it is frightening. > > > Do you really have the ability to disconnect your empathy for the > > plight of your fellow human? > > > On 28 Sep, 14:46, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I've seen it a few times and never found it heart wrenching. I > > > usually spend more time wondering how stupid people are to get that > > > hooked up with a preacher, thinking what is wrong with people. I > > > viewed it all in a non-chalant way, completed unaffected and that may > > > seem chilly but it's just my separation from the external at work. I > > > don't waste much time with morons unless it's for entertainment > > > purposes. People that do stupid things ultimately pay for their > > > stupidity and I couldn't care less about them. > > > > On Sep 28, 8:31 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I saw it. Heart wrenching. > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, [email protected] < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Did anybody watch that documentry about Rev Jim and Jamestown the > > > > > other month? With audio recordings of the actual event at the end, > > > > > fuck me talk about harrowing. > > > > > > On 26 Sep, 10:04, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > We > > > > > > all have drunk some flavor of Kool-Aid...and some of us know it. > > > > > > -orn > > > > > > > Yeah, maybe so. But at least mine's not flavored with cyanide! > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:34 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > “…I think the more measured and scholarly approach to > > > > > > > solving problems that the Heritage Foundation takes makes much > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > sense….” – DJ > > > > > > > > Sense, perhaps…wisdom, no! Personally I find any blind use of > > > > > > > dogmatic > > > > > > > social philosophy to be anathema, even more so than simple > > > > > > > fantasy and/ > > > > > > > or hyperbole. The latter can show clarity while the former can > > > > > > > not. We > > > > > > > all have drunk some flavor of Kool-Aid...and some of us know it. > > > > > > > > On Sep 26, 12:56 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Well I wouldn't go so far as to say I 'trust' them but I > > > > > > >> definitely > > > > > > >> respect them. Like you say, they aren't shy about stating their > > > > > > >> purpose. They have some sound opinions on the health care bill > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > >> make a lot of sense to me. Naomi Klein, on the other hand, comes > > > > > > >> across as your typical purveyor of agitprop. I remember when she > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > >> instrumental in playing the race card after Hurricane Katrina. > > > > > > >> Writing some hogwash about Bush deliberately putting blacks at > > > > > > >> risk > > > > > > >> while saving whites after the storm. Just silly. She has a > > > > > > >> history of > > > > > > >> fabricating truths and exaggerating evidence to support her own > > > > > > >> sick > > > > > > >> fantasies. I think the more measured and scholarly approach to > > > > > > >> solving problems that the Heritage Foundation takes makes much > > > > > > >> more > > > > > > >> sense. > > > > > > > >> In a completely unrelated matter; why do so many 'activists' > > > > > > >> hide(or > > > > > > >> at least obscure) their true ideologies? People that live and > > > > > > >> breath > > > > > > >> a Marxist doctrine will look you straight in the eye and tell > > > > > > >> you they > > > > > > >> aren't a communist. Do you think they're ignorant, stupid or > > > > > > >> are they > > > > > > >> trying to put one over on us? Not that there is anything wrong > > > > > > >> with > > > > > > >> being a communist... I'm just curious what some of you think of > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> often un-clever attempts of some journalists to muddy their > > > > > > >> political > > > > > > >> leanings. Do they think we're all stupid or something? > > > > > > > >> dj > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > Around the time of the formation of this organization (The > > > > > > >> > Heritage > > > > > > >> > Foundation) I had begun to become politically and economically > > > > > aware. > > > > > > >> > Quite quickly I learned to study who funded and ran such ‘think > > > > > > >> > tanks’. Their stated mission: > > > > > > > >> > “Founded in 1973, The Heritage Foundation is a New Right think > > > > > > >> > tank. > > > > > > >> > Its stated mission is to formulate and promote conservative > > > > > > >> > public > > > > > > >> > policies based on the principles of "free enterprise, limited > > > > > > >> > government, individual freedom, traditional American values, > > > > > > >> > and a > > > > > > >> > strong national defense." It is widely considered one of the > > > > > > >> > world's > > > > > > >> > most influential public policy research institutes.” > > > > > > > >> > …sounds innocent enough, no? And, they do come right out and > > > > > > >> > state > > > > > > >> > their political and economic dogma. > > > > > > > >> >http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heritage_Foundation > > > > > > > >> > Further down the page, on the above link, one can find the > > > > > > >> > primary > > > > > > >> > corporate funders of the foundation, big-pharma, tobacco, > > > > > > >> > insurance > > > > > > >> > companies, military contractors. > > > > > > > >> > They, along with the Cato Institute and others who manufacture > > > > > > >> > consent, are anathema to anyone other than the top 1% > > > > > > >> > financially in > > > > > > >> > the US and similar people worldwide. > > > > > > > >> > From an article by Naomi Klein a year or so ago: > > > > > > > >> > “But, you know, I was interested that yesterday the Heritage > > > > > > >> > Foundation, which has always been a staunch Friedmanite think > > > > > > >> > tank, > > > > > > >> > that they came out in favor of the bailout. They came out in > > > > > > >> > favor > > > > > of > > > > > > >> > the bailout; they said it was vital. And what’s interesting > > > > > > >> > about > > > > > that > > > > > > >> > is, of course, the bailout is creating a crisis in the > > > > > > >> > economic—in > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > public sphere. It’s taking a private crisis, a crisis on Wall > > > > > Street, > > > > > > >> > which of course isn’t restricted to Wall Street, and it will > > > > > > >> > affect > > > > > > >> > everyone, but it is moving it, moving those bad debts, onto the > > > > > public > > > > > > >> > books.” > > > > > > > >> > Her website:http://www.naomiklein.org/main > > > > > > > >> > …some of her views on the Heritage Fondation: > > > > > > >> >http://www.naomiklein.org/search/node/the+heritage+foundation > > > > > > > >> > The most recent ‘Research’ by the Heritage Institute: > > > > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > > > >> > Defunding ACORN: Necessary and Proper, and Certainly > > > > > > >> > Constitutional > > > > > > >> > by Hans A. von Spakovsky > > > > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > > > >> > The Baucus Individual Health Insurance Mandate: Taxing > > > > > > >> > Low-Income > > > > > and > > > > > > >> > Moderate-Income Workers > > > > > > >> > by Robert A. Book, Ph.D., Guinevere Nell, and Paul L. Winfree > > > > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > > > >> > The Baucus Health Bill: A Medicare Physician Payment Shell Game > > > > > > >> > by Dennis G. Smith > > > > > > > >> > The above is from their own site. > > > > > > > >> > I have never trusted this organization when it comes to helping > > > > > > >> > humanity. They clearly continue to push the same old economic > > > > > > >> > dogma > > > > > > >> > that produced our current situation. I guess one gets what > > > > > > >> > they pay > > > > > > >> > for, no? > > > > > > > >> > On Sep 25, 5:24 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> April 2005 > > > > > > >> >> Top 10 Examples of Government Waste > > > > > > >> >> by Brian M. Riedl > > > > > > > >> >> President George W. Bush has proposed terminating or strongly > > > > > > >> >> reducing the budgets of over 150 inefficient or ineffective > > > > > programs. > > > > > > >> >> This is a step in the right direction to pare back the runaway > > > > > > >> >> spending that has pushed the budget deficit over $400 > > > > > > >> >> billion. In > > > > > less > > > > > > >> >> than three years, the first baby boomers will begin to collect > > > > > Social > > > > > > >> >> Security: Lawmakers must therefore begin to reduce spending > > > > > > >> >> now to > > > > > > >> >> make room for the massive Social Security and Medicare costs > > > > > > >> >> that > > > > > will > > > > > > >> >> follow. > > > > > > > >> >> The first place to trim runaway federal spending is in waste, > > > > > fraud, > > > > > > >> >> and abuse. 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