If it is any comfort to you Slip - to paraphrase Freud: He was lamentably sad that for him
the mass of men of which he came into daily contact were not much more elevated than swine. (I think if questioned he would not have anything personal against pigs - only human pigs.) -----Original Message----- From: Slip Disc <[email protected]> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 4:59 pm Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Just the Top Ten, Imagine the rest ecause I have a different emotional base should not evoke ridicule ut more so understanding that there are many differing ersonalities. I posted a new thread on street violence but ruthfully aside from watching the video I felt not much more than ismay and then moved on to the next news story. I don't really have uch empathy for humanity other than for those with whom I come in ersonal contact with. I don't think there is anything wrong with hat position and it's not really an ability to disconnect its just he way it is. There is no pre-meditation that prompts me to isconnect. It's nothing new and in fact has been covered in past hreads, my feeling alien to this world and being present only as a oyeur. I don't have any need to take part. I have the makings of ame and notoriety but really don't care if I die unknown, I'm just ot impressed with it at all. Life is a fleeting moment in time and o I spend the most of it in happiness and share that with those round me. We've been through this before Lee, there is nothing I can o about the lives of those people, so why should I spend time being oncerned? For me it's just a news story to read. When there is a isaster I donate money to the relief fund, I give to several harities, disabled organizations and extend my assistance in certain ituations where I can be of help. A tropical storm just killed 140 eople in the Philippines, what do you want me to do? That's life ubba! Crying over it isn't going to change anything. On Sep 28, 8:59 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> rote: I think it's more than chilly mate, I think it is frightening. Do you really have the ability to disconnect your empathy for the plight of your fellow human? On 28 Sep, 14:46, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > I've seen it a few times and never found it heart wrenching. I > usually spend more time wondering how stupid people are to get that > hooked up with a preacher, thinking what is wrong with people. I > viewed it all in a non-chalant way, completed unaffected and that may > seem chilly but it's just my separation from the external at work. I > don't waste much time with morons unless it's for entertainment > purposes. People that do stupid things ultimately pay for their > stupidity and I couldn't care less about them. > On Sep 28, 8:31 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, I saw it. Heart wrenching . > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, [email protected] < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Did anybody watch that documentry about Rev Jim and Jamestown the > > > other month? With audio recordings of the actual event at the end, > > > fuck me talk about harrowing. > > > On 26 Sep, 10:04, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We > > > > all have drunk some flavor of Kool-Aid...and some of us know it. -orn > > > > Yeah, maybe so. But at least mine's not flavored with cyanide! > > > > dj > > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:34 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > “…I think the more measured and scholarly approach to > > > > > solving problems that the Heritage Foundation takes makes much more > > > > > sense….” – DJ > > > > > Sense, perhaps…wisdom, no! Personally I find any blind use of ogmatic > > > > > social philosophy to be anathema, even more so than simple fantasy nd/ > > > > > or hyperbole. The latter can show clarity while the former can not. e > > > > > all have drunk some flavor of Kool-Aid...and some of us know it. > > > > > On Sep 26, 12:56 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Well I wouldn't go so far as to say I 'trust' them but I definitely > > > > >> respect them. Like you say, they aren't shy about stating th eir > > > > >> purpose. They have some sound opinions on the health care bill hat > > > > >> make a lot of sense to me. Naomi Klein, on the other hand, comes > > > > >> across as your typical purveyor of agitprop. I remember when she as > > > > >> instrumental in playing the race card after Hurricane Katrina. > > > > >> Writing some hogwash about Bush deliberately putting blacks at risk > > > > >> while saving whites after the storm. Just silly. She has a history f > > > > >> fabricating truths and exaggerating evidence to support her own ick > > > > >> fantasies. I think the more measured and scholarly approach to > > > > >> solving problems that the Heritage Foundation takes makes much more > > > > >> sense. > > > > >> In a completely unrelated matter; why do so many 'activists' ide(or > > > > >> at least obscure) their true ideologies? People that live and reath > > > > >> a Marxist doctrine will look you straight in the eye and tell you hey > > > > >> aren't a communist. Do you think they're ignorant, stupid or are hey > > > > >> trying to put one over on us? Not that there is anything wrong ith > > > > >> being a communist... I'm just curious what some of you think of he > > > > >> often un-clever attempts of some journalists to muddy their olitical > > > > >> leanings. Do they think we're all stupid or som ething? > > > > >> dj > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Around the time of the formation of this organization (The eritage > > > > >> > Foundation) I had begun to become politically and economically > > > aware. > > > > >> > Quite quickly I learned to study who funded and ran such ‘think > > > > >> > tanks’. Their stated mission: > > > > >> > “Founded in 1973, The Heritage Foundation is a New Right think ank. > > > > >> > Its stated mission is to formulate and promote conservative ublic > > > > >> > policies based on the principles of "free enterprise, limited > > > > >> > government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and > > > > >> > strong national defense." It is widely considered one of the orld's > > > > >> > most influential public policy research institutes.” > > > > >> > …sounds innocent enough, no? And, they do come right out and tate > > > > >> > their political and economic dogma. > > > > >> >http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heritage_Foundation > > > > >> > Further down the page, on the above link, one can find the rimary > > > > >> > corporate funders of the foundation, big-pharma, tobacco, nsurance > > > > >> > companies, military contractors. > > > > >> > They, along with the Cato Institute and others who manufacture > > > > >> > consent, are anathema to anyone other than the top 1% financially n > > > > >> > the US and similar people worldwide. > > > > >> > From an article by Naomi Klein a year or so ago: > > > > >> > “But, you know, I was interested that yesterday the Heritage > > > > >> > Foundation, which has always been a staunch Friedmanite think ank, > > > > >> > that they came out in favor of the bailout. They came out in avor > > > of > > > > >> > the bailout; they said it was vital. And what’s interesting about > > > that > > > > >> > is, of course, the bailout is creating a crisis in the conomic—in > > > the > > > > >> > public sphere. It’s taking a private crisis, a crisis on Wall > > > Street, > > > > >> > which of course isn’t restricted to Wall Street, and it will ffect > > > > >> > everyone, but it is moving it, moving those bad debts, onto the > > > public > > > > >> > books.” > > > > >> > Her website:http://www.naomiklein.org/main > > > > >> > …some of her views on the Heritage Fondation: > > > > >> >http://www.naomiklein.org/search/node/the+heritage+foundation > > > > >> > The most recent ‘Research’ by the Heritage Institute: > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > >> > Defunding ACORN: Necessary and Proper, and Certainly onstitutional > > > > >> > by Hans A. von Spakovsky > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > >> > The Baucus Individual Health Insurance Mandate: Taxing Low-Income > > > and > > > > >> > Moderate-Income Workers > > > > >> > by Robert A. Book, Ph.D., Guinevere Nell, and Paul L. Winfree > > > > >> > September 25, 2009 > > > > >> > The Baucus Health Bill: A Medicare Physician Payment Shell Game > > > > >> > by Dennis G. Smith > > > > >> > The above is from their own site. > > > > >> > I have never trusted this organization when it comes to helping > > > > >> > humanity. They clearly continue to push the same old economic ogma > > > > >> > that produced our current situation. I guess one gets what they ay > > > > >> > for, no? > > > > >> > On Sep 25, 5:24 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> April 2005 > > > > >> >> Top 10 Examples of Government Waste > > > > >> >> by Brian M. Riedl > > > > >> >> President George W. Bush has proposed terminating or strongly > > > > >> >> reducing the budgets of over 150 inefficient or ineffective > > > programs. > > > > >> >> This is a step in the right direction to pare back the runaway > > > > >> >> spending that has pushed the budget deficit over $400 billion. n > > > less > > > > >> >> than three years, the first baby boomers will begin to collect > > > Social > >20> > >> >> Security: Lawmakers must therefore begin to reduce spending now o > > > > >> >> make room for the massive Social Security and Medicare costs hat > > > will > > > > >> >> follow. > > > > >> >> The first place to trim runaway federal spending is in waste, > > > fraud, > > > > >> >> and abuse. Congress, however, has largely abandoned its > > > constitutional > > > > >> >> duty of overseeing the executive branch and has steadfastly efused > > > to > > > > >> >> address the waste littered across government programs. In 2003, n > > > > >> >> attempt by House Budget Committee Chairman Jim Nussle (R–IA) to > > > > >> >> address wasteful spending was rejected by the House of > > > > >> >> Representatives, and similar calls in 2004 by then-Senate udget > > > > >> >> Committee Chairman Don Nickles (R–OK) were rejected by the enate. > > > A > > > > >> >> small group of House lawmakers has formed the Washington Waste > > > > >> >> Watchers, but their agenda has not been embraced by the whole > > > House. > > > > >> >> Lack of information is not the problem. Today, government waste > > > > >> >> investigations and recommendations can be found in hundreds of > > > > >> >> reports, such as: > > > > >> >> * > > > > >> >> Studies published by the U.S. Government Accountability > > > Offic e > > > > >> >> (GAO),[1] > > > > >> >> * > > > > >> >> The Congressional Budget Office’s Budget Options book, > > > > >> >> * > > > > >> >> Inspector general reports of each agency, > > > > >> >> * > > > > >> >> Government Performance and Results Act reports of each > > > agency, > > > > >> >> * > > > > >> >> The White House’s Program Assessment Rating Tool (PART) > > > program > > > > >> >> reviews, and > > > > >> >> * > > > > >> >> The Senate Governmental Affairs Committee’s 2001 overnment > > > at > > > > >> >> the Brink reports. > > > > >> >> For those seeking past recommendations that went unheeded, the 984 > > > > >> >> Grace Commission report on government waste and the 1993–1995 > > > > >> >> publications of Vice ... read more » -~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ ou received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Minds Eye"" group. o post to this group, send email to [email protected] o unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] or more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en ~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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