Well Molly, your examples merely confirm my comment that "little" effort is made. I wouldn't say that the examples reflect a great deal of effort. Sure there are organizations that combat numerous problems but overall results are insignificant. Things haven't really changed all that much, have they?
I'm not assuming that "all" children are experiencing the same thing and I would think you should know better than that. Of course there are better schools, better standards and better students. I'm simply addressing the obvious problems. It wouldn't make sense to talk about Chicago's elite public schools, the ones that parents are bedding with aristocracy in exchange for their kids enrollment. It's about inner city mentality and the mentality of those who contribute to the development of inner cities across the country and around the world. On Oct 5, 1:15 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > "I feel that little sincere effort is made towards nurturing peace", > SD > > I disagree, and offer some of the following organizations that are > active in nurturing peace in > societies:http://www.cnvc.org/http://www.americanhumane.org/protecting-children/http://www.adl.org/issue_education/hateprejudice/Prejudice2.asphttp://www.un.org/unrwa/english.htmlhttp://www.bfi.org/ > > "We don't actually try to instill attitudes of peace but relay the > idea that violence is a solution." SD > > You may be encouraged to know that most Middle and High Schools in the > US have made diversity and non violence a big part of their > curriculum, mission and code of conduct. Often their state funding > depends on it. There are certainly messages out there that our > children receive, that give the idea that violence is a solution. But > we do, as a society, in the public school system, give alternative > ideas. It would be nice to think that kids get that at home also. We > all know this is not always the case. > > It would be a mistake to watch the video of the gang fight in Chicago > and assume that all of our children experience this or that our > schools do nothing to instill attitudes of non violence. > > "It's all about self preservation and greed." That may be part of it, > but is not all of it. There is a great big green movement out there > trying to save the world, and the angry, mean green meme are willing > to fight anyone they have to to do it. This is a developmental stage > of the individual's ability to work in a group, and not, I think, a > reflection of our ability as a whole to progress. People fight. They > fight for, they fight against, they just fight to fight. Why is the > question. I think that those of us who have not learned that peace > makes life more livable, meaning, improves the quality of life and our > relations exponentially, just keep fighting until they do learn it. > > On Oct 5, 10:56 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Leave it to Cleaver! lol > > > To address the whole of it I would say the same as in another thread, > > peoples minds are up for grabs. I can't say that it is all about > > identity issues but there seems to be a degree of self representation > > in what people absorb from the external. The advertising industry > > knows this very well and promotes products in a way that bolsters the > > human ego. From the big truck to the elitist mustard the sell is > > based on that simple appeal. > > As far as television and movies I do believe that they have an affect > > on society. The presentations on the tube or screen are no better > > than the people in control of the industry, which as we all know > > doesn't run high in the ethics and morals department. Either way the > > offerings of non violent role model presentations are next to none. > > There have been many studies that show how young children act out > > violently after watching a movie containing violence. > > > Excerpt: > > Societal influences help foment violent behavior. The images that > > populate mass media actually have the longest-lasting impact of all > > contributors to violence. Prolonged exposure to violent images > > increases the fear of becoming a victim, desensitizes violence, and > > heightens the viewer's appetite for similarly engaging in > > violence.http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199403/violence-has-home-address > > > Violent and other antisocial behaviors involving children and > > adolescents are being > > blamed on the media. In the United States, controversy over the > > influence of > > the media on children remains intense. Yet more violent acts are > > depicted on tele- > > vision, sales of video games depicting death and destruction are > > skyrocketing, and > > many rock videos show violence as a viable means of conflict > > resolution. Efforts > > to limit the acts of violence shown in the media are met with the > > industry's consid- > > erable financial resources to resist responsible programming. Although > > media vio- > > lence is not the leading cause of real-life violence, it is a > > significant cause, and one > > that is easily remediable. The major components of the media affecting > > children-- > > television (videos, movies), print (comic books, magazines, and > > newspapers), and > > radio--continue to have powerful negative effects on American > > children. > > >http://www.questia.com/read/27253421?title=Schools%2c%20Violence%2c%2... > > (#5 left pane) > > > Television has a dominant role. American children view two hundred > > thou- > > sand violent acts on television by the age of eighteen. While parents > > have a > > central role in influencing the lives of their children, television > > has a powerful effect > > on the development of unhealthy activities, negative attitudes, and > > antisocial be- > > haviors. American children and adolescents spend twenty-three to > > twenty-eight > > hours per week viewing television. This three to four hours per day > > displaces > > healthy activities, including exercise, play, reading, and homework. > > By high school > > graduation, twelve thousand hours will have been spent in formal > > classroom > > instruction, yet fifteen thousand hours will have been spent in front > > of the > > television. > > > Violent Human Nature: Telling a New Story > > William L. Ury > > > In this past year when it came to the question of intervening in > > Kosovo, > > as in Bosnia or Rwanda, we heard countless times in the media that > > these > > people have been fighting for centuries and centuries; it's in their > > blood > > and there's nothing you can do about it. The day after the Columbine > > shooting in April 1999, the spokesperson for the school district was > > quoted as saying, “You can take every reasonable step to make a > > positive > > environment for everyone, but sometimes human nature will defeat you.” > > This attribution of violence and war to human nature has a rich > > intellectual > > heritage. Voltaire, for instance, expressed the widespread beliefs of > > his > > time when he asserted that slavery is as ancient as war and was human > > nature. At the beginning of this century, Freud posited the existence > > of an > > instinct of destruction and aggression, believing that it lay at the > > root of > > war. He wrote, “Under primitive conditions it is superior force, brute > > violence > > or violence backed by arms, that lords it everywhere.” > > > _____________________________ > > > I feel that little sincere effort is made towards nurturing peace, > > instead we succumb to barbarianism as with Popeye when we had all we > > can stand it's time for the violence. We don't actually try to > > instill attitudes of peace but relay the idea that violence is a > > solution. The world continues to churn with decreasing attention to > > reason. I wouldn't imagine any violent uprising in a meeting room > > full of Minds Eye members, therefore I would reason that the lack of > > reason and the effort to place value on reason in the minds of our > > society lies at the core of the increase in violence behavior. > > In the beginning of the video in Chicago I hear the girl yelling "get > > out the car" and wonder where is the disconnect in our system of > > education, the integration somehow has been lost, somewhat abandoned > > and a sub culture had been allowed to fester and emerge, a lord of the > > flies scenario. The tragedy of the death is simply a by product of > > another tragedy, the failure of a segment of society to grasp hold of > > the opportunities that are afforded them, the reasons for that are > > many. This is not a race debate but a social issue directed at the > > whole in failure to address the part. Unfortunately there is a > > tendency to ignore that which is not a immediate personal problem. > > Society ignores inner cities because most don't have to live there > > with the rats and rodents. Society spends millions on incarceration > > as a result but spends little on a infrastructure that promotes > > productivity, advancement and higher educational programs. The great > > disparity becomes evident and clear when you have mega wealth and > > abject poverty in the same place. The ostentatious wealth of > > billionaires and the plight of Derrion Albert. Money does something > > to people and I'm not sure exactly what it is but I've seen many go > > from rags to riches and then turn their backs on their humble > > beginnings and those they struggled with only to live in over sized > > houses with six car garages while tossing money away on frivolity. > > It's not as if we really can't do something about poverty, is it? > > It's all about self preservation and greed. > > > On Oct 5, 7:13 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > whoops, that should have been clever, not cleaver. Oh Freud, you've > > > done it again.... > > > > On Oct 5, 8:08 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Popular shows (according to the ratings industry) sell advertising. > > > > To look at why violence in our entertainment industry is popular you > > > > need to look to human psychology. We are taken to a process of > > > > completion when we watch a show that includes violence and the story > > > > has a beginning and an end. We, on more subtle levels, as we follow > > > > along also express the violence within us in acceptable ways. The > > > > mainstream or majority of the bell curve of us wrestle with > > > > oppositional feelings and suppress violent tendencies so that they > > > > come out in, if we are cleaver, more and more subtle ways, through > > > > interpersonal violence, bullying and manipulation. Violence in media > > > > is attractive to many of us because it illustrates those parts of us > > > > we are taught to look away from. > > > > > Now the Tipper Gore questions of, at what point does the violence > > > > begin to breed more violence, or influence us to act in violent ways, > > > > or lead us to believe that violence is acceptable, or introduce > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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