you have a lot to learn Bobby, take a simple word of advice to heart.... "when you think you know it all,, there is more!" Allan
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:31 PM, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > It was a documentary I saw...I forget the name. > > THE OUTER ALWAYS REFLECTS THE INNER. That's like saying when you look > into a mirror you see no reflection. > > "The key is to remain within the parameters of modest living. " > Which key? Why? > > Now I'm not really sure about the conclusion to your last post, but > NEVER-THE-LESS. Let this be NOTICE that I will not be replying to > frivolous posts in the next week. I will log on once per day for the > next week, then my duty is done here. > > As for the Kabbalistic post. I have not learned the run of the mill > kabbalistic system. I know the 'MAGICAL ALCHEMICAL ANCIENT SYSTEM' > this information was WHISPERED at the tops of mountains and in deep > caves that no one else find out. I DO NOT feel comfortable sharing in > this medium...it's ME. > > > On Oct 9, 1:44 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wasn't asking because I'm looking for a teacher but wanted more > > insight as to where you were coming from. Now that you have taken > > some more time to explain I have a better picture. Seems we're on > > different levels of thought. Nothing wrong with parables or old > > adages, some people find them very useful. As for me I have as much > > interest in religious beliefs as I do genital warts. I also disagree > > with your assertion that lotto winners lost out because they didn't > > change themselves. Opposite may be true when you consider how being > > of meager existence causes one to establish austerity budgets and live > > within means. Winning large sums of money actually 'changes' the > > person's financial concepts and the 'outer no longer reflects the > > inner'. If I won several million dollars I would not change myself > > at all. The key is to remain within the parameters of modest living. > > My vehicle would not reflect my wealth nor my lifestyle. Sure I'd buy > > a new car but not some gaudy looking thing but one that would blend in > > with the real world. I also don't think 90% of lotto winners go > > bankrupt; where did you get your statistics? > > Results of a study: > > Camelot Group Plc, operator of The UK National Lottery, has released > > the first ever major survey of National Lottery winners to discover > > what effect the lottery really has on happiness, lifestyles and > > relationships. > http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=141224 > > > > On Oct 8, 11:40 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Slip...There is a reason Jesus spoke in parables. There is also a > > > reason why he said "Do not throw your pearls before swine". You have > > > to deduce for yourself to some extent. Or else people who are not > > > ready for the information just get frustrated. In the older days > > > people would give their lives to know...HISTORICALLY only the ELITE > > > would have access to this kind of information. TIMES ARE > > > CHANGING...but we must still be RESPECTFUL of ALL BELIEFS. > > > > > There's a REASON why 90% of people who win the lotto go bankrupt > > > again...It's because they didn't change THEMSELVES. Their same habits, > > > thoughts, being, brings about the same circumstances. The OUTER always > > > reflects the INNER. What is above is so below. > > > > > Their is a fundamental problem to manifesting(THE SECRET etc..) Don't > > > get me wrong there are ways to do it...which they don't really teach. > > > But anyways, theres a fundamental problem with it. It's still too much > > > like throwing a stone down a dark alleyway...must people don't > > > understand the ALCHEMY behind it and therefore aren't truly > > > EFFECTIVE. > > > > > Is it more advantageous to SECRET a million dollars or to acquire the > > > character traits that will produce a million dollars TIME AND TIME > > > AGAIN? The former is powerless(UNLESS the PROCESS IS UNDERSTOOD)...the > > > latter can replicate the results anywhere. FUTURE = PAST + PRESENT... > > > Where is the POWER? PRESENT the "I"...I AM THAT I AM. > > > > > Now we are getting into KABBALISTIC, TAOIST, HERMETIC ALCHEMY...I'm > > > not comfortable with sharing this on this forum. If you're interested > > > my EMAIL is listed. > > > > > On Oct 8, 7:23 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Seems as though you are not responding as much to previous posts, > > > > which are in response to your questions, as you are posing new > > > > questions. > > > > I think you should elaborate considerably in order to keep the thread > > > > flowing. You said "what is above is so below", what do you mean by > > > > that? > > > > Clarify "everything on the outside is a reflection of the inside" and > > > > "everything is perception". > > > > Don't just ask questions and then disregard the answers or respond > > > > with "ok now ...........another ?" > > > > What is "ok"? > > > > > > On Oct 8, 4:53 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > OK...what is more IMPORTANT...the POSSESIONS or the level of MIND > that > > > > > can grant you the POSSESIONS, HEALTH, FREEDOM? > > > > > > > EVERYTHING on the OUTSIDE is a reflection of the INSIDE. > > > > > > > EVERYTHING is perception...How does one acquire the perception to > > > > > recognize a situation where ABUNDANCE is created? > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 9:55 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > a good point to be made, prayers for possession are probably > futile, > > > > > > but prayers for becoming more effective. > > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 9:26 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Another route is that "it" doesn't come one's way- and for good > > > > > > > reason, ultimately. I do expect God to multi-task :-) so I will > > > > > > > beseech help as well as be grateful for what I perceive as > blessings > > > > > > > of the day- often, it is really my own ability to solve a small > > > > > > > problem or locate an item, etc.- small exchanges, really. I > presume > > > > > > > chit-chat prayers are allowed. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 8:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I believe it to be simply focusing one's mind on the need or > change, > > > > > > > > the cosmos does the rest. Could be tapping into the > collective > > > > > > > > subconscious. Of course this is not something that one > manipulates > > > > > > > > that which is, like telekinesis etc. We don't just focus to > win > > > > > > > > lotto. However, my experience has shown that when I have a > need of > > > > > > > > something it just comes my way after I focus on having it, > not > > > > > > > > immediately or directly but through a series of occurrences > that lead > > > > > > > > to the acquisition. It's a strange thing but, for me, it > does happen > > > > > > > > and I have many stories to demonstrate it, but I won't bore > anyone > > > > > > > > with all that. The point is, there is something within us > that is > > > > > > > > part of the cosmos and all it's workings, part of some matrix > of > > > > > > > > energy, zero point field, collective subconscious, land of > the dead, I > > > > > > > > don't really know. For sure it is not something that you > can convey > > > > > > > > to another, some have it and some don't. The focusing is a > intent > > > > > > > > knowing that you are connected to something greater, a mental > > > > > > > > transcendence of the consciousness. I think there have been > people > > > > > > > > throughout history that have had mastered it and were > perceived to be > > > > > > > > gods. > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 5:36 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > WOW! Slip Disc... > > > > > > > > > > > OK Now...How does one change ONE'S circumstances, emotions, > health, > > > > > > > > > world? > > > > > > > > > > > What is ABOVE is so BELOW. > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 1:58 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > you and Jim Morrisonhttp:// > www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJtJwJrv7Q > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 4:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I think prayer in any form, in any religion, is an > admission that > > > > > > > > > > > we ourselves are not capable of or unwilling to > directly effect > > > > > > > > > > > change in a situation, therefore we call upon, IMO, a > perceived notion > > > > > > > > > > > of a higher power that facilitates change upon our > calling, when in > > > > > > > > > > > fact all indications of such a thing happening is > literally non > > > > > > > > > > > existent in the history of man, that is, other than > fairy tale books > > > > > > > > > > > that have been written, of which we have no personal or > contemporary > > > > > > > > > > > account of, validation of nor any present day > re-occurrence of. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 12:37 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does GOD want us to praise him or does he want us to > be abundant and > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP those around us to be abundant as well? Is it > better to praise > > > > > > > > > > > > GOD or is it Better TO BE GOD...is God Poor? Sick? > Unhappy?...NO we > > > > > > > > > > > > already discussed divine attributes... My wish is > that people realize > > > > > > > > > > > > this... BUT some are just not ready for these > teachings and for them > > > > > > > > > > > > religion is a safe zone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOD is Balance - beauty, abundance, happiness...too > many times the > > > > > > > > > > > > religious sabotage themselves...Believe it or not it > is our NATURE to > > > > > > > > > > > > be HAPPY, ABUNDANT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 7:45 am, iam deheretic < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally I think prayer of truly learning to > function within God as I > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand him, but each person must find their own > chosen path. To each > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is as much or as little as their choosing, > everything is of free will > > > > > > > > > > > > > and choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah once again it is the eastern gate.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Molly Brogan < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that there are different forms of prayer, > and which we use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depends on whether we see God as someone or > something external to us - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some all mighty force outside of our selves > (anthropomorphic) - or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether we see God as an integral part of > ourselves and our highest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (or most complete) state of consciousness. These > two very different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts of God might call for different forms of > prayer (but not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > necessarily) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 8:24 am, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *sigh* Theres always one huh! ;¬) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Oct, 12:56, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I praise God AFTER I get what I want! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 6:36 am, " > [email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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