On 8 Oct, 14:26, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another route is that "it" doesn't come one's way- and for good
> reason, ultimately. I do expect God to multi-task :-) so I will
> beseech help as well as be grateful for what I perceive as blessings
> of the day- often, it is really my own ability to solve a small
> problem or locate an item, etc.- small exchanges, really. I presume
> chit-chat prayers are allowed.
>
The big things in life AREN'T the big things--it's all the little
things that add up TO them that ARE the big things. ;-)
> On Oct 7, 8:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I believe it to be simply focusing one's mind on the need or change,
> > the cosmos does the rest. Could be tapping into the collective
> > subconscious. Of course this is not something that one manipulates
> > that which is, like telekinesis etc. We don't just focus to win
> > lotto. However, my experience has shown that when I have a need of
> > something it just comes my way after I focus on having it, not
> > immediately or directly but through a series of occurrences that lead
> > to the acquisition. It's a strange thing but, for me, it does happen
> > and I have many stories to demonstrate it, but I won't bore anyone
> > with all that. The point is, there is something within us that is
> > part of the cosmos and all it's workings, part of some matrix of
> > energy, zero point field, collective subconscious, land of the dead, I
> > don't really know. For sure it is not something that you can convey
> > to another, some have it and some don't. The focusing is a intent
> > knowing that you are connected to something greater, a mental
> > transcendence of the consciousness. I think there have been people
> > throughout history that have had mastered it and were perceived to be
> > gods.
>
> > On Oct 7, 5:36 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > WOW! Slip Disc...
>
> > > OK Now...How does one change ONE'S circumstances, emotions, health,
> > > world?
>
> > > What is ABOVE is so BELOW.
>
> > > On Oct 7, 1:58 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > you and Jim Morrisonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJtJwJrv7Q
>
> > > > On Oct 7, 4:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Well I think prayer in any form, in any religion, is an admission that
> > > > > we ourselves are not capable of or unwilling to directly effect
> > > > > change in a situation, therefore we call upon, IMO, a perceived notion
> > > > > of a higher power that facilitates change upon our calling, when in
> > > > > fact all indications of such a thing happening is literally non
> > > > > existent in the history of man, that is, other than fairy tale books
> > > > > that have been written, of which we have no personal or contemporary
> > > > > account of, validation of nor any present day re-occurrence of.
>
> > > > > On Oct 7, 12:37 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Does GOD want us to praise him or does he want us to be abundant and
> > > > > > HELP those around us to be abundant as well? Is it better to praise
> > > > > > GOD or is it Better TO BE GOD...is God Poor? Sick? Unhappy?...NO we
> > > > > > already discussed divine attributes... My wish is that people
> > > > > > realize
> > > > > > this... BUT some are just not ready for these teachings and for them
> > > > > > religion is a safe zone.
>
> > > > > > GOD is Balance - beauty, abundance, happiness...too many times the
> > > > > > religious sabotage themselves...Believe it or not it is our NATURE
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > be HAPPY, ABUNDANT.
>
> > > > > > On Oct 7, 7:45 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Personally I think prayer of truly learning to function within
> > > > > > > God as I
> > > > > > > understand him, but each person must find their own chosen path.
> > > > > > > To each
> > > > > > > there is as much or as little as their choosing, everything is of
> > > > > > > free will
> > > > > > > and choice.
>
> > > > > > > Ah once again it is the eastern gate..
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Molly Brogan
> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I think that there are different forms of prayer, and which we
> > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > depends on whether we see God as someone or something external
> > > > > > > > to us -
> > > > > > > > some all mighty force outside of our selves (anthropomorphic) -
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > whether we see God as an integral part of ourselves and our
> > > > > > > > highest
> > > > > > > > (or most complete) state of consciousness. These two very
> > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > concepts of God might call for different forms of prayer (but
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > necessarily)
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 8:24 am, "[email protected]"
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > *sigh* Theres always one huh! ;¬)
>
> > > > > > > > > On 7 Oct, 12:56, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I praise God AFTER I get what I want! :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 6:36 am, "[email protected]"
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hey Bobby welcome to ya.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Prayer is a funny old thing, my self I don't aghree with
> > > > > > > > > > > a word tha
> > > > > > > > > > > you say about it. To me prayer is no more than singing
> > > > > > > > > > > the prasies
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > God, no asking, no begging, no putting your energy out
> > > > > > > > > > > intio the
> > > > > > > > > > > univers in order for you to 'get stiff'. Just simply
> > > > > > > > > > > singing the
> > > > > > > > > > > prasies of God. So I for one can say that I have never
> > > > > > > > > > > prayed for
> > > > > > > > > > > anything, not for ill friends, not for good exam results,
> > > > > > > > > > > just to
> > > > > > > > > > > praise God.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > So to my mind if you do indeed use prayer for getting
> > > > > > > > > > > things that you
> > > > > > > > > > > want, then you just have missed the whole point.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Oct, 01:41, bobby <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ask and you shall receive. DOES NOT say ask ME and you
> > > > > > > > > > > > shall
> > > > > > > > receive.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Too often people think they are praying TO God, outside
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > them...in
> > > > > > > > > > > > heaven somewhere...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lets put aside the obvious God knows everything then
> > > > > > > > > > > > why would I
> > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > > HAVE to pray to (him??)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Can you transfer your thoughts outside your own body?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Never the
> > > > > > > > > > > > less...into HEAVEN miles and miles away in space
> > > > > > > > > > > > somewhere.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > When you PRAY you are not ASKING some being to GRANT to
> > > > > > > > > > > > you.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > You should be stating what you want and your energy
> > > > > > > > > > > > will flow
> > > > > > > > there.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > It's a responsibility thing...I think religions are
> > > > > > > > > > > > great for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > people who are religious but from MY point of view they
> > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > irresponsible. When something doesn't go their way they
> > > > > > > > > > > > blame
> > > > > > > > > > > > GOD...when it does they blame GOD. The way the world
> > > > > > > > > > > > has worked the
> > > > > > > > > > > > last 13 thousand years has been giving power away...
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's changing.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness,
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