OK...what is more IMPORTANT...the POSSESIONS or the level of MIND that can grant you the POSSESIONS, HEALTH, FREEDOM?
EVERYTHING on the OUTSIDE is a reflection of the INSIDE. EVERYTHING is perception...How does one acquire the perception to recognize a situation where ABUNDANCE is created? On Oct 8, 9:55 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > a good point to be made, prayers for possession are probably futile, > but prayers for becoming more effective. > > On Oct 8, 9:26 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Another route is that "it" doesn't come one's way- and for good > > reason, ultimately. I do expect God to multi-task :-) so I will > > beseech help as well as be grateful for what I perceive as blessings > > of the day- often, it is really my own ability to solve a small > > problem or locate an item, etc.- small exchanges, really. I presume > > chit-chat prayers are allowed. > > > On Oct 7, 8:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I believe it to be simply focusing one's mind on the need or change, > > > the cosmos does the rest. Could be tapping into the collective > > > subconscious. Of course this is not something that one manipulates > > > that which is, like telekinesis etc. We don't just focus to win > > > lotto. However, my experience has shown that when I have a need of > > > something it just comes my way after I focus on having it, not > > > immediately or directly but through a series of occurrences that lead > > > to the acquisition. It's a strange thing but, for me, it does happen > > > and I have many stories to demonstrate it, but I won't bore anyone > > > with all that. The point is, there is something within us that is > > > part of the cosmos and all it's workings, part of some matrix of > > > energy, zero point field, collective subconscious, land of the dead, I > > > don't really know. For sure it is not something that you can convey > > > to another, some have it and some don't. The focusing is a intent > > > knowing that you are connected to something greater, a mental > > > transcendence of the consciousness. I think there have been people > > > throughout history that have had mastered it and were perceived to be > > > gods. > > > > On Oct 7, 5:36 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > WOW! Slip Disc... > > > > > OK Now...How does one change ONE'S circumstances, emotions, health, > > > > world? > > > > > What is ABOVE is so BELOW. > > > > > On Oct 7, 1:58 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > you and Jim Morrisonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJtJwJrv7Q > > > > > > On Oct 7, 4:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well I think prayer in any form, in any religion, is an admission > > > > > > that > > > > > > we ourselves are not capable of or unwilling to directly effect > > > > > > change in a situation, therefore we call upon, IMO, a perceived > > > > > > notion > > > > > > of a higher power that facilitates change upon our calling, when in > > > > > > fact all indications of such a thing happening is literally non > > > > > > existent in the history of man, that is, other than fairy tale books > > > > > > that have been written, of which we have no personal or contemporary > > > > > > account of, validation of nor any present day re-occurrence of. > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 12:37 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does GOD want us to praise him or does he want us to be abundant > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > HELP those around us to be abundant as well? Is it better to > > > > > > > praise > > > > > > > GOD or is it Better TO BE GOD...is God Poor? Sick? Unhappy?...NO > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > already discussed divine attributes... My wish is that people > > > > > > > realize > > > > > > > this... BUT some are just not ready for these teachings and for > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > religion is a safe zone. > > > > > > > > GOD is Balance - beauty, abundance, happiness...too many times the > > > > > > > religious sabotage themselves...Believe it or not it is our > > > > > > > NATURE to > > > > > > > be HAPPY, ABUNDANT. > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 7:45 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Personally I think prayer of truly learning to function within > > > > > > > > God as I > > > > > > > > understand him, but each person must find their own chosen > > > > > > > > path. To each > > > > > > > > there is as much or as little as their choosing, everything is > > > > > > > > of free will > > > > > > > > and choice. > > > > > > > > > Ah once again it is the eastern gate.. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think that there are different forms of prayer, and which > > > > > > > > > we use > > > > > > > > > depends on whether we see God as someone or something > > > > > > > > > external to us - > > > > > > > > > some all mighty force outside of our selves (anthropomorphic) > > > > > > > > > - or > > > > > > > > > whether we see God as an integral part of ourselves and our > > > > > > > > > highest > > > > > > > > > (or most complete) state of consciousness. These two very > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > concepts of God might call for different forms of prayer (but > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > necessarily) > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 8:24 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *sigh* Theres always one huh! ;¬) > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Oct, 12:56, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I praise God AFTER I get what I want! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 6:36 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Bobby welcome to ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayer is a funny old thing, my self I don't aghree > > > > > > > > > > > > with a word tha > > > > > > > > > > > > you say about it. To me prayer is no more than singing > > > > > > > > > > > > the prasies > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > God, no asking, no begging, no putting your energy out > > > > > > > > > > > > intio the > > > > > > > > > > > > univers in order for you to 'get stiff'. Just simply > > > > > > > > > > > > singing the > > > > > > > > > > > > prasies of God. So I for one can say that I have never > > > > > > > > > > > > prayed for > > > > > > > > > > > > anything, not for ill friends, not for good exam > > > > > > > > > > > > results, just to > > > > > > > > > > > > praise God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So to my mind if you do indeed use prayer for getting > > > > > > > > > > > > things that you > > > > > > > > > > > > want, then you just have missed the whole point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Oct, 01:41, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ask and you shall receive. DOES NOT say ask ME and > > > > > > > > > > > > > you shall > > > > > > > > > receive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too often people think they are praying TO God, > > > > > > > > > > > > > outside of > > > > > > > > > them...in > > > > > > > > > > > > > heaven somewhere... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets put aside the obvious God knows everything then > > > > > > > > > > > > > why would I > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > > HAVE to pray to (him??) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you transfer your thoughts outside your own body? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never the > > > > > > > > > > > > > less...into HEAVEN miles and miles away in space > > > > > > > > > > > > > somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you PRAY you are not ASKING some being to GRANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be stating what you want and your energy > > > > > > > > > > > > > will flow > > > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a responsibility thing...I think religions are > > > > > > > > > > > > > great for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > people who are religious but from MY point of view > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are > > > > > > > > > > > > > irresponsible. When something doesn't go their way > > > > > > > > > > > > > they blame > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOD...when it does they blame GOD. The way the world > > > > > > > > > > > > > has worked the > > > > > > > > > > > > > last 13 thousand years has been giving power away... > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's changing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bg.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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