Orn I don't think your rants are meaningless as many people want a fixed out come or objective. I have noticed with what I believe there are a few who are interested, and listen to what is said, It may sound strange I think these are the one who find their path to their own understanding.
The vast landscape of life it self is the very essence on which a spiritual foundation is built. Using the words and thoughts of others to polish their own path. Sadly it seems many people want a path that laided out steps A . . . now step B . . . now step C . . . what is really sad is often times the people leading the masses are blind themselves and have no real idea of where they are going,, just following blindly. Allan On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:26 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > > "...I'm left with the difficult vision that > the better world is rendered unachievable by desires that the people > in it be different, including me." - Neil > > Aye, this is at the core of dissatisfactions. AA has its methodology, > theology has its brand. Exploring the vast landscape of life is itself > a divine practice. There is no additional anthropomorphism required. > > I admit to obviously seeing a more ideal world too. If I didn’t my > rants would be meaningless. However, the sad fact is that they are > meaningless in the sense that what is is, and without professing a > theology, it is not my will involved. > > > On Oct 10, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > The question implicit in the description of Orn's wonderful life is > > why we can't just retire at birth. I've just been reading Aristotle's > > 'Politics' and this more or less suggests the same. Citizens in its > > great societies more or less require this, work being done by others. > > This only goes to show there are Orns even older than the Orn > > himself. I have found growing old as disappointing as prayer, more or > > less a process of wanting something other than the rat-race, or giving > > up to be looked after in the asylum. I've spent some time in the last > > years in a form of prayer, mostly discovering the hill of beans ain't > > worth the candle, and failing to achieve the nirvana of not being > > ashamed to fart in public. I'm left with the difficult vision that > > the better world is rendered unachievable by desires that the people > > in it be different, including me. > > > > On 10 Oct, 21:14, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Prayer in a nutshell ... the power of positive thought !! (as an > > > added benefit it has nothing to do with a god and works quite well > > > without one.) > > > > > On Oct 6, 5:41 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ask and you shall receive. DOES NOT say ask ME and you shall receive. > > > > > > Too often people think they are praying TO God, outside of them...in > > > > heaven somewhere... > > > > > > Lets put aside the obvious God knows everything then why would I even > > > > HAVE to pray to (him??) > > > > > > Can you transfer your thoughts outside your own body? Never the > > > > less...into HEAVEN miles and miles away in space somewhere. > > > > > > When you PRAY you are not ASKING some being to GRANT to you. > > > > > > You should be stating what you want and your energy will flow there. > > > > > > It's a responsibility thing...I think religions are great for the > > > > people who are religious but from MY point of view they are > > > > irresponsible. When something doesn't go their way they blame > > > > GOD...when it does they blame GOD. The way the world has worked the > > > > last 13 thousand years has been giving power away... it's changing. > > > > > > Happiness, > > > > > > bg.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
