Here is an interesting book that was posted on my blog the other day, it is free, no one is credited for authorship, although an explanation of the collaboration of researchers is at the end. The idea is fascinating, and shows us, I think, that we all are looking in our own way.
http://www.thebasicstate.com/ On Oct 11, 9:42 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I find searching for perfection in spirituality extremely exciting and > fascinating. > > Truly a lifetime process. Early in my quest during one of the heavier > episodes a voice within and with out simply said: "When you think you know > it all. . . there is more." I have tried to take that to heart. It truly has > added a richness to my life and a never ending quest. > > what I find truly sad is those that have even failed to look. > Allan > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "what is really sad is often times the > > people leading the masses are blind themselves" IAD > > > I find this not sad, but exciting, as this is where we are all one. > > In terms of self as other, we all create our next step, individually > > and together, based on our knowing, being and vision (desire). I > > agree with you, Allan, none of us have our path laid out, all of us > > create our experience as we go, and it changes, often unexpectedly, > > according to some mysterious formula that many of us spend our > > lifetimes discovering. > > > On Oct 11, 4:27 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Orn I don't think your rants are meaningless as many people want a fixed > > out > > > come or objective. I have noticed with what I believe there are a few who > > > are interested, and listen to what is said, It may sound strange I think > > > these are the one who find their path to their own understanding. > > > > The vast landscape of life it self is the very essence on which a > > spiritual > > > foundation is built. Using the words and thoughts of others to polish > > their > > > own path. Sadly it seems many people want a path that laided out steps A > > . . > > > . now step B . . . now step C . . . what is really sad is often times > > the > > > people leading the masses are blind themselves and have no real idea of > > > where they are going,, just following blindly. > > > Allan > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:26 AM, ornamentalmind < > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > "...I'm left with the difficult vision that > > > > the better world is rendered unachievable by desires that the people > > > > in it be different, including me." - Neil > > > > > Aye, this is at the core of dissatisfactions. AA has its methodology, > > > > theology has its brand. Exploring the vast landscape of life is itself > > > > a divine practice. There is no additional anthropomorphism required. > > > > > I admit to obviously seeing a more ideal world too. If I didn’t my > > > > rants would be meaningless. However, the sad fact is that they are > > > > meaningless in the sense that what is is, and without professing a > > > > theology, it is not my will involved. > > > > > On Oct 10, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The question implicit in the description of Orn's wonderful life is > > > > > why we can't just retire at birth. I've just been reading > > Aristotle's > > > > > 'Politics' and this more or less suggests the same. Citizens in its > > > > > great societies more or less require this, work being done by others. > > > > > This only goes to show there are Orns even older than the Orn > > > > > himself. I have found growing old as disappointing as prayer, more > > or > > > > > less a process of wanting something other than the rat-race, or > > giving > > > > > up to be looked after in the asylum. I've spent some time in the > > last > > > > > years in a form of prayer, mostly discovering the hill of beans ain't > > > > > worth the candle, and failing to achieve the nirvana of not being > > > > > ashamed to fart in public. I'm left with the difficult vision that > > > > > the better world is rendered unachievable by desires that the people > > > > > in it be different, including me. > > > > > > On 10 Oct, 21:14, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Prayer in a nutshell ... the power of positive thought !! (as an > > > > > > added benefit it has nothing to do with a god and works quite well > > > > > > without one.) > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 5:41 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ask and you shall receive. DOES NOT say ask ME and you shall > > receive. > > > > > > > > Too often people think they are praying TO God, outside of > > them...in > > > > > > > heaven somewhere... > > > > > > > > Lets put aside the obvious God knows everything then why would I > > even > > > > > > > HAVE to pray to (him??) > > > > > > > > Can you transfer your thoughts outside your own body? Never the > > > > > > > less...into HEAVEN miles and miles away in space somewhere. > > > > > > > > When you PRAY you are not ASKING some being to GRANT to you. > > > > > > > > You should be stating what you want and your energy will flow > > there. > > > > > > > > It's a responsibility thing...I think religions are great for the > > > > > > > people who are religious but from MY point of view they are > > > > > > > irresponsible. When something doesn't go their way they blame > > > > > > > GOD...when it does they blame GOD. The way the world has worked > > the > > > > > > > last 13 thousand years has been giving power away... it's > > changing. > > > > > > > > Happiness, > > > > > > > > bg.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
