I find searching for perfection in spirituality extremely exciting and fascinating.
Truly a lifetime process. Early in my quest during one of the heavier episodes a voice within and with out simply said: "When you think you know it all. . . there is more." I have tried to take that to heart. It truly has added a richness to my life and a never ending quest. what I find truly sad is those that have even failed to look. Allan On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > "what is really sad is often times the > people leading the masses are blind themselves" IAD > > I find this not sad, but exciting, as this is where we are all one. > In terms of self as other, we all create our next step, individually > and together, based on our knowing, being and vision (desire). I > agree with you, Allan, none of us have our path laid out, all of us > create our experience as we go, and it changes, often unexpectedly, > according to some mysterious formula that many of us spend our > lifetimes discovering. > > On Oct 11, 4:27 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Orn I don't think your rants are meaningless as many people want a fixed > out > > come or objective. I have noticed with what I believe there are a few who > > are interested, and listen to what is said, It may sound strange I think > > these are the one who find their path to their own understanding. > > > > The vast landscape of life it self is the very essence on which a > spiritual > > foundation is built. Using the words and thoughts of others to polish > their > > own path. Sadly it seems many people want a path that laided out steps A > . . > > . now step B . . . now step C . . . what is really sad is often times > the > > people leading the masses are blind themselves and have no real idea of > > where they are going,, just following blindly. > > Allan > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:26 AM, ornamentalmind < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...I'm left with the difficult vision that > > > the better world is rendered unachievable by desires that the people > > > in it be different, including me." - Neil > > > > > Aye, this is at the core of dissatisfactions. AA has its methodology, > > > theology has its brand. Exploring the vast landscape of life is itself > > > a divine practice. There is no additional anthropomorphism required. > > > > > I admit to obviously seeing a more ideal world too. If I didn’t my > > > rants would be meaningless. However, the sad fact is that they are > > > meaningless in the sense that what is is, and without professing a > > > theology, it is not my will involved. > > > > > On Oct 10, 8:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The question implicit in the description of Orn's wonderful life is > > > > why we can't just retire at birth. I've just been reading > Aristotle's > > > > 'Politics' and this more or less suggests the same. Citizens in its > > > > great societies more or less require this, work being done by others. > > > > This only goes to show there are Orns even older than the Orn > > > > himself. I have found growing old as disappointing as prayer, more > or > > > > less a process of wanting something other than the rat-race, or > giving > > > > up to be looked after in the asylum. I've spent some time in the > last > > > > years in a form of prayer, mostly discovering the hill of beans ain't > > > > worth the candle, and failing to achieve the nirvana of not being > > > > ashamed to fart in public. I'm left with the difficult vision that > > > > the better world is rendered unachievable by desires that the people > > > > in it be different, including me. > > > > > > On 10 Oct, 21:14, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Prayer in a nutshell ... the power of positive thought !! (as an > > > > > added benefit it has nothing to do with a god and works quite well > > > > > without one.) > > > > > > > On Oct 6, 5:41 pm, bobby <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ask and you shall receive. DOES NOT say ask ME and you shall > receive. > > > > > > > > Too often people think they are praying TO God, outside of > them...in > > > > > > heaven somewhere... > > > > > > > > Lets put aside the obvious God knows everything then why would I > even > > > > > > HAVE to pray to (him??) > > > > > > > > Can you transfer your thoughts outside your own body? Never the > > > > > > less...into HEAVEN miles and miles away in space somewhere. > > > > > > > > When you PRAY you are not ASKING some being to GRANT to you. > > > > > > > > You should be stating what you want and your energy will flow > there. > > > > > > > > It's a responsibility thing...I think religions are great for the > > > > > > people who are religious but from MY point of view they are > > > > > > irresponsible. When something doesn't go their way they blame > > > > > > GOD...when it does they blame GOD. The way the world has worked > the > > > > > > last 13 thousand years has been giving power away... it's > changing. > > > > > > > > Happiness, > > > > > > > > bg.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
