" ... we haven't done anything other than make matters worse ... "
This refrain in your sentiments is noticeable, Neil, ever since I've read your first post on this forum. How about joining the BNP and actually doing something about the mess, to be true to yourself ? Or, could you critically analyse your sentiments and redress it within yourself ? Especially since history is marching right in front of your eye, like an avalanche, and your discomforts and " serious " reservations mean nothing for the future ! In which case, dump your sentiments and join in the flow. There might be a lot of goodness, happiness and freedom in that. Yes, you may continue to feel as you do now, and spread your bitterness and timid disagreements all about you. Perhaps, there are more choice if you were to go looking. On Oct 24, 6:11 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Have to agree with that Francis. Our eldest daughter is leftie and > hated living in London (Hackney), saying many black and Asian people > made her feel really uncomfortable, especially Town Hall staff and > 'street blacks'. I tend to agree and my experience there is 20 years > old. Griffin hits a chord on this and it sickens me we haven't done > anything other than make matters worse since Powell. The lack of > proper mainstream argument is sickening. If this is affecting even > people like us it's really serious. Polls over the last days show > huge support in principle amongst many who would have no truck with > the BNP or even UKIP. It doesn't help to have idiots like Dianne > Abbott (Labour Hackney - kids at public school) telling us everything > is hunky-dory in multicultural London and it's only up North where > there is effective segregation where there are problems. The lying > going on is now routine. > Ian pointed out long ago that Labour has got itself into a mess with > Islam, but it has also lost any grip on what it used to stand for. > When Tories start to look preferable to me, something dire has > happened and I have to say I think Labour is now Stalinist in its > responses to criticism (and also Bushist). I've tended to regard > German politics as a bit more civilised, but I thought that of France > before worked there. > > On 23 Oct, 17:51, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've been reading some of the press reports on Griffin on "Question > > Time" - I just don't have the stomach to watch the thing on-line. > > > The best recruiting sergeants for Griffin, his BNP whackos and other > > assorted fascoid loonies are the established parties - not just in > > Britain. They have succeeded in destroying any credibility and belief > > in their sincerity and integrity among western populations in general. > > No wonder that little people, who feel hurt, betrayed and hard-done-by > > by the political elites, become cannon-fodder for such simplistic, > > hate-mongering bastards. > > > Francis > > > On 23 Okt., 13:28, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's a given that the BBC milked all of the publicity for their own > > > ends, *shrug* I don't mind that so much, it's great that he was given > > > some TV time, I would expect no less in a democracy. I realy don't > > > even care if he garners more support, on the whole I still think that > > > he is in a tiny, little, wheeny minority. > > > > Things do seem to be differant down here in London town Neil, there > > > are soooo many people from all over the globe here that > > > multiculturalism is second nature to us. > > > > On 22 Oct, 21:53, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm an over-tolerant man as you know Lee. I've actually been rather > > > > impressed by whatever-his-name is. I don't hit the pubs as often > > > > these days and it had been a few months when Peter and I met up in our > > > > 'local'. He noticed a distinct swing to the right in the > > > > conversation. I had a couple more in another after he went home and > > > > found a bunch of skinheads playing punk. The old jokes are back in > > > > fashion and some are openly saying they will vote BNP. Not been down > > > > South for some time - is the experience replicated your way? > > > > What strikes me is that even I think the BNP, EDL, UKIP line makes > > > > more sense of what people tell me they are worried about than our > > > > truly dead 'official politics' and media punditry. The only possible > > > > ways to vote for me are Liberal and Green, but they aren't talking > > > > about the pain being suffered. > > > > It can't be right to silence the BNP in a democracy, but I suspect > > > > they are not the real problem - this is much more to do with why no > > > > one is articulating people's real fears and genuine solutions to the > > > > mess we are in. I want to listen to the BNP and whatever effect they > > > > are having on people. Quite what I'd do if large numbers start to > > > > vote for them is another matter. If they are genuine democrats and > > > > would not abandon the ballot if in power, I think I would have to put > > > > up with them as government. This might be a pigs might fly argument, > > > > but we are already not democratic in so many ways. This may be why > > > > fascism is gaining ground. > > > > The answer to Pigsly is surely not to character assassinate him in > > > > advance. I dislike the BBCs use of him as advertising material too. > > > > I think he will cope rather well, perhaps as we might shine in a > > > > cricket match of the blind. Labour and the Tories have been using > > > > Goebels-like tactics for a long time. If he does manage to articulate > > > > his constituency without being racist-sexist-thuggish, he may > > > > embarrass the business as usual types Question Time usually gives > > > > floor-space to. I see none of them talking about the real lives around > > > > me. This is not to wish him well. > > > > > On 22 Oct, 10:24, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > So the big question for today is who is going to be watching Question > > > > > Time this evening? > > > > > > Yep, me, I already have beer in and soft stuff piled up next to my > > > > > chair(ready for throwing at the TV), I have warned the family I may ge > > > > > a little more shouty at the box than normal. > > > > > > Man I hope the little fucker gets pieces ripped out of him, ahhhh but > > > > > then I'm not really a violent man.......but still. > > > > > > I think it should be not only great TV (damn I'm sounding like sombody > > > > > who has spent too long in the industry now), but hopefully will show > > > > > the BNP for exactly what they are.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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