Pretty damned good Pat - thanks for taking the time.  Although we've
had a tough time since we met, Sue brought me a sense of wholeness
I've not known before (except for a brief time that ended in
tragedy).  I hadn't been thinking of my parents consciously.  This, in
a way, is the beginning of a new space for us.

On 28 Oct, 12:34, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28 Oct, 11:33, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I had an odd day-dream a week ago.  I had a big pond, though it was
> > rubber-bottomed.  It was in a large garden.  I was looking at it,
> > thinking of cleaning it up.  I saw a baby elephant running about in
> > the bottom of it, under the water.  I called Sue to have a look.  Two
> > yobs climbed the garden wall and a saw them off with a brush.  Next
> > thing I was in trouble with alligators, not exactly scared as they
> > were not that big and likely to be as scared of me as I them.  My Dad
> > came and sorted them.  No one was at all impressed with the pond, now
> > teeming with fish and Sue coaxed the elephant out.  We went into a
> > large, messy kitchen.  My Mum was around in the background as a smell
> > of bread and the whistling kettle on the Aga.
>
>      Symbolically, elephants are 'known' for their memory.  A baby
> elephant, though, would seem to have 'less memory' due to age(?) than
> an older/bigger elephant.  Classically, alligators and crocodiles
> represent 'deep wisdom' of which you were not afraid, nonetheless it
> was your father (and I'm assuming that your subconscious mind
> associates him with the wisdom of old age) that 'sorted them out' for
> you.  The pond, itself, I think is life.  Your wife coaxed out your
> memory (the elephant) and you admit, later, that you wish that the two
> had met.  That almost speaks for itself.  And, you're not afraid of
> the 'little wisdoms' (the alligators) of life (the pond).  The smell
> of bread, I think, is a 'satisfaction from life' that you HAD when
> your parents were around that, in the meantime, has, perhaps, waned.
> To be honest, how many of your recent posts were all about how
> satisfied you are with life?
>      In a nutshell, I think the dream was symbolically saying no more
> than:
>  1) that you wished you had the wisdom you feel your father had (or
> the wisdom with which you credit HIM but not yourself) and that you
> wished that Sue had known them.
>       and
>  2) that if you DID have that wisdom, you'd be able to act in such a
> way that you (and others) would be impressed by the pond (of life).
>      and
>  3) that you lack a satisfaction in life (the smell of baking bread)
> that you feel you've somehow lost since your parents have passed.
>
>      Did Sue mention something the previous day that reminded you of
> how much you wanted them to have met?  As THAT would explain her
> coaxing the elephant (the memory of your your father) out of the pond
> (doubling, in this respect, as your own subconscience as well as
> representing life in general).  Sound reasonable??
>
>
>
> > Mum and Dad died long ago.  I've often wished they had met Sue.  Life
> > is a bit uncertain at the moment, though a great pain has been lifted
> > from our lives, if not quite gone.  It's new start time, though we are
> > both just escaping exhaustion after illness and stress.  I'm happier
> > than for a long time, though not quite kicking on.
>
> > Whatever the interpretation of this dream (feel free), there is
> > another kind of dreaming, let alone what a bit of opium might do.
> > This is much more directly concerned with thinking, trying to get a
> > new handle on problems and what life could be.  This form of dreaming
> > is often despised as 'idealism' or 'Utopian'.  You can see a form of
> > it in the 'real dream' above - at least in the desire for family,
> > somewhere decent to live (though the Aga in the kitchen and smell of
> > bread is distinctly not 'green').  We are short of a universal dream
> > of the way we would have the world.  I have tired of one tracking down
> > crooks and violent solutions (television and films).  Even destroying
> > the Australians at cricket (though I just have in a video game)
> > palls.  What, in this sense is in our Mind's Eye?  How would we have
> > the world?
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